It's a LOOOOONG way from arcane arguments about the supposed necessity of some sort
of uncaused caused to the anthropomorphisized monstrosties called Yahweh or Allah.
What kind
of uncaused cause do you believe is possible and why would it not apply to a universe?
In the nineteenth century, the First Vatican Council taught a world newly enthralled by the «death of God» that by the use of reason alone mankind could come to know the reality
of the Uncaused Cause, the First Mover, the God of the philosophers.»
Not exact matches
Metaphysics would help us to see that the initial state
of the universe could not be the
uncaused cause
of the universe, as Maudlin suggests would be possible.
Why aren't atheists ever swayed into belief by WLC's meanderings about his hypothetical «
uncaused caused» (named god) which is made
of nothing but poofed everything into existence from its nothingness?
If you think causality is true at all, there are no such things as
uncaused suspensions
of physical laws («miracles») and therefore no possibility
of the sort
of miraculous events all religions claim as basic to their dogmas.
The scientific evidence in support
of God's existence lies in the evidence that the universe is not eternal and that it is unscientific for something with a beginning to be
uncaused.
How does Craig get from his hypothetical
uncaused cause made
of nothing to the bizarro 3 - in - 1 Christian god who becomes his own son and sends people to hell if they don't believe the right unbelievable things about him?
The highest cause may be (1) in every sense or aspect «
uncaused,» in no sense or aspect the effect
of anything else; or it may be (2) in some aspects
uncaused, and in others causally influenced, but its manner
of both acting and receiving influences may be the highest conceivable, hence absolutely «perfect,» although even so its whole being may not in every sense be perfect, because the influences as coming from other causes, say human beings, may be less admirable than they might be; or the supreme cause may be (3) in no sense or aspect
uncaused, independent
of other powers, hence in no way wholly exempt from the imperfections
of the latter...
For example, take the statement: «The cause must be itself
uncaused because an infinite series
of causes is impossible.»
You said, «The cause must be itself
uncaused because an infinite series
of causes is impossible.»
The cause must be itself
uncaused because an infinite series
of causes is impossible.
But he may have believed in something more like the Deists» impersonal god as the «
uncaused cause»
of the universe.
Then there is the set
of secular concepts by which this religious idea has usually been interpreted: pure actuality, immutability, impassivity,
uncaused causality.
Even if you can't bring yourself to call it «God,» it is undeniable that the cause, whatever it is, must be transcendent and preexistent, as it had to have existed before everything else in order to have caused everything else; it must be immaterial, as its existence preceded the existence
of matter; it must be intelligent, as evidenced by the complexity
of the universe it caused; and it must itself be
uncaused, existing necessarily rather than contingently.
«whatever it is, must be transcendent and preexistent, as it had to have existed before everything else in order to have caused everything else; it must be immaterial, as its existence preceded the existence
of matter; it must be intelligent, as evidenced by the complexity
of the universe it caused; and it must itself be
uncaused, existing necessarily rather than contingently.»
Bill: «Creationism», or the belief in an
uncaused cause for all that is, doesn't rely on the the pre-history
of Genesis.
Is it more rational to believe the universe popped into existence out
of nowhere completely
uncaused, or that it was caused by a powerful and intelligent mind?
Also, because I don't see any reasonably demonstrated evidence
of such, I find adding the attribute «
uncaused», too defining — too limiting
of possibilities.
'' Is it more rational to believe the universe popped into existence out
of nowhere completely
uncaused»
Yes, it is well worth emphasizing that the abstract arguments for recognizing a god as the «
uncaused cause»
of the universe can not be used to defend the notion
of a personal god, let alone the specific conception
of god and his supposed take on human beliefs that Christians believe in.
The beginning
of wisdom for me was the realization that there has to be an
uncaused cause and an unmoved mover.
Since St. Thomas Aquainas failed miserably at logically defending the existence
of God (i.e. the
uncaused cause, etc.) the defense
of Christianity has centered around two propositions:
As man is here seen to be essentially a being who wills, so God is primarily Will, and moreover sovereign,
uncaused Will, which has no need to justify the willing on any rational grounds before the bar
of intellect.
Of course, it is possible that the universe is
uncaused.
The only rational answer is that there is at the beginning
of all things an
uncaused Cause, capable
of causing all things.
To speak
of «God» properly — in a way, that is, consonant with the teachings
of orthodox Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Sikhism, Vedantic and Bhaktic Hinduism, Bahá» í, much
of antique paganism, and so forth — is to speak
of the one infinite ground
of all that is: eternal, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, uncreated,
uncaused, perfectly transcendent
of all things and for that very reason absolutely immanent to all things.
Contrary to the determinists, who see all events as the predictable result
of antecedent causes, physical indeterminists insist that at the sub-atomic level there are happenings which are «
uncaused,» arising spontaneously and unpredictably out
of a mysterious depth to which our science
of causes can not penetrate.
If nothing exists beyond the universe and All
of the universe, space and time itself came into existence some 13.75 billion years ago then All
of the universe, space and time itself came into existence
uncaused, out
of non-being.
Physical (A) Causality: Determinism, Randomness and
Uncaused Events (Fundamental Theories
of Physics)
By following the logical consequences
of assuming a zero level
of «pre-eruption» aerosols, I showed that that led inescapably to an «
uncaused» rise in temperature.
Not fair to cheat and just make intelligence an a priori infinitely improbable characteristic
of your infinite eternity and explain the visible Universe however improbable you want to judge it in ignorance, with the an even less probable
uncaused cause judged in even greater ignorance as it is out there where it can not even in principle be observed, slipping the pea neatly under the shell.