Lindzen isn't highlighting that the large uncertainty in aerosol effects is responsible for much
of the uncertainty in climate sensitivity estimates: he's making an unjustified claim that the aerosol negative forcing is small.
Limited understanding of clouds is the major source
of uncertainty in climate sensitivity, but it also contributes substantially to persistent biases in modelled circulation systems.
We have to consider one more aspect
of uncertainty in climate sensitivity.
Yeah, they're keeping that a huge secret: Section 8.6.3.2 of AR4 is called «Clouds,» and contains the statement «cloud feedbacks remain the largest source
of uncertainty in climate sensitivity estimates.»
As we've discussed before (and is well known), clouds are the greatest source
of uncertainty in climate sensitivity.
Given that clouds are known to be the primary source
of uncertainty in climate sensitivity, how much confidence can you place in a study based on a model that doesn't even attempt to simulate clouds?
Not exact matches
As the
Climate Science Special Report states, the magnitude of future climate change depends significantly on «remaining uncertainty in the sensitivity of Earth's climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions,»» White House spokesperson Raj Shah said Friday in a sta
Climate Science Special Report states, the magnitude
of future
climate change depends significantly on «remaining uncertainty in the sensitivity of Earth's climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions,»» White House spokesperson Raj Shah said Friday in a sta
climate change depends significantly on «remaining
uncertainty in the
sensitivity of Earth's
climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions,»» White House spokesperson Raj Shah said Friday in a sta
climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions,»» White House spokesperson Raj Shah said Friday
in a statement.
It tries to turn a major factor
in the
uncertainty in climate sensitivity estimates — the behavior
of clouds — into a strength.
That
uncertainty is represented
in the latest crop
of global
climate models, which assume a
climate sensitivity of anywhere from about 3 to 8 degrees F.
«This is one
of several recent studies that provide sobering evidence that earth's
climate sensitivity may lie
in the upper end
of the current
uncertainty range,» Mann said
in an email.
Here we show how a factor
of three
uncertainty in climate sensitivity introduces even greater
uncertainty in allowable increases
in atmospheric CO2 concentration and allowable CO2 emissions.
On time - scales
of a few decades, the current observed rate
of warming can be used to constrain the projected response to a given emissions scenario despite
uncertainty in climate sensitivity.
The simple question
of whether the medieval period was warm or cold is not particularly interesting — given the
uncertainty in the forcings (solar and volcanic) and
climate sensitivity, any conceivable temperature anomaly (which remember is being measured
in tenths
of a degree) is unlikely to constrain anything.
I agree (as does IPCC) that there is
uncertainty, as stated,
in the
climate sensitivity, but you are completely unjustified
in your claim that the cosmic - ray correlation (for which there is still no sound physical basis or quantified mechanism) supports the lower end
of the
sensitivity range.
Therefore, I wouldn't attach much credence, if any, to a modelling study that didn't explore the range
of possibilities arising from such
uncertainty in parameter values, and particularly
in the value
of something as crucial as the
climate sensitivity parameter, as
in this example.
For example, we know the past CO2 radiative forcing to very high accuracy, but there are more
uncertainties in the aerosol forcing; applying a consistent
climate sensitivity to both CO2 and aerosols, you can get a match to the observed record for a range
of different supposed aerosol forcings, but you can't take it too far.
The top priorities should be reducing
uncertainties in climate sensitivity, getting a better understanding
of the effect
of climate change on atmospheric circulation (critical for understanding
of regional
climate change, changes
in extremes) and reducing
uncertainties in radiative forcing — particularly those associated with aerosols.
They got 10 pages
in Science, which is a lot, but
in it they cover radiation balance, 1D and 3D modelling,
climate sensitivity, the main feedbacks (water vapour, lapse rate, clouds, ice - and vegetation albedo); solar and volcanic forcing; the
uncertainties of aerosol forcings; and ocean heat uptake.
However,
in view
of the fact that cloud feedbacks are the dominant contribution to
uncertainty in climate sensitivity, the fact that the energy balance model used by Schmittner et al can not compute changes
in cloud radiative forcing is particularly serious.
Absent understanding
of cloud feedback processes, the best you can really do is mesh it into the definition
of the emergent
climate sensitivity, but I think probing (at least some
of) the
uncertainties in effects like this is one
of the whole points
of these ensemble - based studies.
It is not all that earthshaking that the numbers
in Schmittner et al come
in a little low: the 2.3 ºC is well within previously accepted
uncertainty, and three
of the IPCC AR4 models used for future projections have a
climate sensitivity of 2.3 ºC or lower, so that the range
of IPCC projections already encompasses this possibility.
The study
of past warm
climates may not narrow
uncertainty in future
climate projections
in coming centuries because fast
climate sensitivity may itself be state - dependent» http://www.pnas.org/content/110/35/14162.full
By scaling spatio - temporal patterns
of response up or down, this technique takes account
of gross model errors
in climate sensitivity and net aerosol forcing but does not fully account for modelling
uncertainty in the patterns
of temperature response to uncertain forcings.
Unfortunately for policymakers and the public, while the basic science pointing to a rising human influence on
climate is clear, many
of the most important questions will remain surrounded by deep complexity and
uncertainty for a long time to come: the pace at which seas will rise, the extent
of warming from a certain buildup
of greenhouse gases (
climate sensitivity), the impact on hurricanes, the particular effects
in particular places (what global warming means for Addis Ababa or Atlanta).
We look to the real world and the paleo record to constrain those aspects
of the
climate system that have non-negligible
uncertainties (most often
climate sensitivities in a general sense).
(
in general, whether for future projections or historical reconstructions or estimates
of climate sensitivity, I tend to be sympathetic to arguments
of more rather than less
uncertainty because I feel like
in general, models and statistical approaches are not exhaustive and it is «plausible» that additional factors could lead to either higher or lower estimates than seen with a single approach.
Probabilistic estimates
of transient
climate sensitivity subject to
uncertainty in forcing and natural variability.
(This large
uncertainty essentially due to the
uncertainty in the aerosol forcing; it is also the main reason why the magnitude
of global dimming has little or no implication for
climate sensitivity).
It is my understanding that the
uncertainties regarding
climate sensitivity to a nominal 2XCO2 forcing is primarily a function
of the
uncertainties in (1) future atmospheric aerosol concentrations; both sulfate - type (cooling) and black carbon - type (warming), (2) feedbacks associated with aerosol effects on the properties
of clouds (e.g. will cloud droplets become more reflective?)
Both issues touch on the issue
of uncertainty,
in particular, the
uncertainty in the global
climate sensitivity.
Uncertainty in climate sensitivity is not going to disappear any time soon, and should therefore be built into assessments
of future
climate.
This is enough to matter, but it's no more scary than the
uncertainty in cloud feedbacks for example, and whether they could put us on the high end
of typical
climate sensitivity estimates.
It's the people who like curiosity - driven research
in climate dynamics who have the real incentive to argue that there's a lot
of uncertainty, because
uncertainty allows people with strong intellectual curiosity to make the case that there's at least some tangential benefit
of their work to the
climate sensitivity problem.
The study
of past warm
climates may not narrow
uncertainty in future
climate projections
in coming centuries because fast
climate sensitivity may itself be state - dependent» http://www.pnas.org/content/110/35/14162.full
The IPCC range, on the other hand, encompasses the overall
uncertainty across a very large number
of studies, using different methods all with their own potential biases and problems (e.g., resulting from biases
in proxy data used as constraints on past temperature changes, etc.) There is a number
of single studies on
climate sensitivity that have statistical
uncertainties as small as Cox et al., yet different best estimates — some higher than the classic 3 °C, some lower.
If
climate senstivity to CO2 is eventually shown (rather than just assumed) to be close to the
sensitivity to solar, I think a case can then be made that the GHG attribution should be equal or higher than the solar attribution, despite the large
uncertainty in our knowledge
of the increase
in solar forcing.
The agreement
of this model with observations is particularly good and perhaps partly fortuitous, given that there is still
uncertainty both
in the
climate sensitivity and
in the amplitudes
of the aerosol and solar forcings.
There is
uncertainty in the
climate sensitivity of the Earth and
in the response
of the carbon cycle, and the papers are extremely useful
in the way that they propagate these
uncertainties to the probabilities
of different amounts
of warming.
With an honest appraisal
of the full
uncertainty, also
in the forcing, one must come to the conclusion that such a short period is not sufficient to draw conclusions about the
climate sensitivity.
Unfortunately, there are many factors that preclude an effective bound on the risks — ranging from
uncertainties in downscaling to more fundamental issues such as the
uncertainty of climate sensitivity.
There's no real progress
in our evaluation
of climate sensitivity, rather the demonstration that real progress will be very difficut to reach (worse even, the range should enlarge as we include more and more parameters for evaluation
of f, so more and more
uncertainty because each new parameter will have its own distribution
of probability).
They got 10 pages
in Science, which is a lot, but
in it they cover radiation balance, 1D and 3D modelling,
climate sensitivity, the main feedbacks (water vapour, lapse rate, clouds, ice - and vegetation albedo); solar and volcanic forcing; the
uncertainties of aerosol forcings; and ocean heat uptake.
All reputable scientists
in this area know and acknowledge that there remain
uncertainties with respect to
climate sensitivity (how warm, how fast
in response to a given level
of GHGs)-- indeed that's where most
of the research is going — along with a better understanding
of the speed
of impacts (e.g. ice loss).
Because the net effect
of clouds — whilst still one
of the major sources
of uncertainty in relation to
climate sensitivity is likely a positive feedback
Such a description is not totally accurate, but certainly accurate enough to make the remaining
uncertainty a minor factor
in uncertainties of the full
climate sensitivity.
I mainly study responses
of tropical low - clouds to perturbations since they induce the largest
uncertainties in climate models and explain a significant part
of the spread
of climate sensitivity.
Sensitivity of the
climate to carbon dioxide, and the level
of uncertainty in its value, is a key input into the economic models that drive cost - benefit analyses, including estimates
of the social cost
of carbon.
The magnitude
of climate change beyond the next few decades will depend primarily on the amount
of greenhouse (heat - trapping) gases emitted globally and on the remaining
uncertainty in the
sensitivity of Earth's
climate to those emissions (very high confidence).
How is the persistent factor
of 3
uncertainty in climate sensitivity consistent with the IPCC confidence levels?
The
sensitivity of the
climate system to an imposed radiative imbalance remains the largest source
of uncertainty in projections
of future anthropogenic
climate change.