this is a rebellion that didn't come from the leader who began this ministry but a rebellion that grew from a group of young people who didn't engage with
the older church leadership about how to contribute to the existing structure.
could be
my old church leadership on the horses... one deacon (let's not limit our virtual beatings to just pastors) kept praying for 100 baptisms in one year; he even wanted to withhold raises from staff until we reached the 100 baptisms; I thought «Great, now our pastors are on commission.»
Not exact matches
What is less clear to me is why complementarians like Keller insist that that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a part of biblical womanhood, but Acts 2 is not; why the presence of twelve male disciples implies restrictions on female
leadership, but the presence of the apostle Junia is inconsequential; why the Greco - Roman household codes represent God's ideal familial structure for husbands and wives, but not for slaves and masters; why the apostle Paul's instructions to Timothy about Ephesian women teaching in the
church are universally applicable, but his instructions to Corinthian women regarding head coverings are culturally conditioned (even though Paul uses the same line of argumentation — appealing the creation narrative — to support both); why the poetry of Proverbs 31 is often applied prescriptively and other poetry is not; why Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob represent the supremecy of male
leadership while Deborah and Huldah and Miriam are mere exceptions to the rule; why «wives submit to your husbands» carries more weight than «submit one to another»; why the laws of the
Old Testament are treated as irrelevant in one moment, but important enough to display in public courthouses and schools the next; why a feminist reading of the text represents a capitulation to culture but a reading that turns an ancient Near Eastern text into an apologetic for the post-Industrial Revolution nuclear family is not; why the curse of Genesis 3 has the final word on gender relationships rather than the new creation that began at the resurrection.
So far as I know there is no issue in our society today on which the
old - line
churches are giving effective
leadership of the sort I have been outlining above.
The patriarchal, macho, controlling, manipulative, shaming, money - grubbing, name - it - and - claim - it, fear - mongering, other - despising, fiefdom - making, using and abusing, excuse for narcissistic and plain
old selfish and power - addled appalling behavior that is commonly called «
church» and «
church leadership» has nothing whatsoever to do with anything the person or character or compilation or concept called «Jesus» ever reportedly or theoretically said, did, or conveyed.
We are grateful for the grace we've been shown by those who watched us leave, especially those in
leadership at our
old church.
I believe that you are correct in supposing that Reformed Evangelical [Calvinism]
Churches have a greater tendency to fall into authoritarian abuse; but a lot depends on the
leadership and «
old boy network» loyalties can trump accountability concerns in any human, not just ecclesiastical, institution.
I am 60 years
old, grew up in a very legalistic cultic
church, been part of several
church leaderships, served as pastor of a start up
church, read and went to many, many, many
church growth conferences, wanted to reach the lost, always trying to find the best structures, the best form of
church, and what type of bells and whistles will attract people to
church.
It's an
old story and is not entirely respectful, of course, but the fact that it is told is reflective of a Catholic sensibility that is not devoid of a certain whimsy about the
Church's
leadership.
When it seemed clear that he was expected to give a speech, he stood up and mentioned what we had discussed on our afternoon walk: that this was something of a historical event, the last of the
old - style missionaries, and that to him it meant that now the
church was 100 per cent on its own for indigenous
leadership.
Based on what people told us, very few left one
church and moved to another because they were angry or because of a major disagreement with the
leadership of the
old church.
People targeted our children to gain favor with the
church leadership — like the man who was helping with Sunday School who insisted my 11 year
old daughter speak in tongues, laying hands on her and yelling at her in front of the other kids — all without our knowledge.
I don't necessarily ascribe to the belief that God «wrote the Bible,» and I do believe, as I think you illustrated in a post about women in
church leadership, that much of it was written in a specific time to specific people — therefore, when dealing with the
Old Testament, we have to keep in mind the times in which it was written and by whom.
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Church, Author of Jesus on Every Page David Murray blogs on ministry,
leadership, preaching, counseling, technology, and theology.
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Old Testament and Practical Theology, Pastor of Grand Rapids Free Reformed
Church, Author of Jesus on Every Page David Murray blogs on ministry,
leadership, preaching, counseling, technology, and theology.