Two thousand years later, the vast majority of the world's population has disregarded the belief that dragons roam the sea, Zeus, Poseidon, and most
other ancient gods (as these people thousands of years ago believed), yet the world inexplicably still clings to the thousands - year - old myths of God and Jesus.
Not exact matches
«That was an insane number driven by crazy credit and should be viewed the same as
gods of
ancient Greece and
other fables or myths.»
For if
God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; if he did not spare the
ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven
others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard); then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority.
Either the Bible is the inspired and inerrant word of the Christian
god; or it is simply another
ancient text, whose ultimate traceability is unknown, and which shares a lot of the same narratives and stories of countless
other religions throughout history.
What is really fascinating is the theory that the Hebrew and Muslim deity figure derive from a war
god in an
ancient Semitic pantheon whose association with the
other gods was lost in the confusion that time and oral tradition bring.
If a Bible verse (or discovery) is detrimental to the cause, it is either: taken out of context; is allegorical or metaphorical; refers to another verse somewhere else; is an
ancient cultural anomaly; is a translation or copyist's error; means something
other than what it actually says; is a mystery of
god or not discernible by humans; or is just plain magic.
St. Malachy about 1000 years,
ancient Mayan over 5000 years, Nostradamus 700 years, Sister Lucia about 100 years, and many
others gave us a prediction of the date that
God will come in his extremely anger to clean up the bad souls.
That is a misunderstanding that many people assign to atheism, but has never actually been a part of the words usage (even in
ancient times, atheists were those without
god, while
other terms were used to refer to those that BELIEVED there was no
gods).
So, you see, there are many, many
other explanations for a really big wooden boat to have been built by
ancient people, and some that don't involve any
ancient myths whatsoever, let alone one about a
god who decided to destroy mankind which happens to be a pretty common theme throughout religion.
But though I love some of the
ancient ponderings, we should first check off some
other possibilities that have been tried and tested when
God is not speaking in my own
God - Conversations journey.
This is a distorted translation... lots of good information comes from
ancient books... it's just that the bible is fictional and any useful information can be found anywhere else since the bible plagiarized any real useful information that's in it... like do unto
others as you wish them to do to you... is just
ancient common sense and has nothing to do with what any fantasy
gods might have said... the bible is a waste of time for the stupids.
What is your evidence, Theo, that the
ancient writings, many of which are of unknown authorship, that, for some, represent alleged «Word of
God», represent anything
other than opinion / hearsay accounting?
And to say that Biblical teachings are invalid because there are
other similar beliefs that have older known written sources invalidates the Biblical teachings also should take into consideration that for certain Biblical believers that all those truths whether they are known to have been placed in the Bible first or known thus far to have been placed elsewhere that they believe that they all come via deity who at the beginning of human history on this world dispensed those truths to humanity and that to those who believe in the biblical teachings believe that through time they are more complete than those of
other ancient beliefs due to
God restoring those truths through revelations given to later prophets like say Moses and
other later Old and New Testament prophets and apostles.
If a bible verse is detrimental to the cause, it is either: taken out of context; is allegorical; refers to another verse somewhere else; is an
ancient cultural anomaly; is a translation or copyist's error; means something
other than what it actually says; Is a mystery of
god or not discernible by humans; or is just plain magic.)
Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, the
gods of the
ancient Greeks, Hinduism, and thousands of
other religions man has created over the course of human history all have their own narratives.
Your
god is a compilation of many
other gods and mythologies through
ancient history.
However, in what is probably the oldest book of the Bible, Job, living in an
ancient culture that knew nothing about space or planets, asserted that
God hung the earth on nothing (1500 B.C.) or, in
other words, the earth free floats in space.
I wandered through
other church traditions, traditional, contemporary, liturgical, meditative, mystic, seeker - sensitive, emerging,
ancient - future, denominational, mega-church, old church, new church, basement church, no church for a while there: you name it, I found my way there and I found the people of
God in each place, I did.
What is less clear to me is why complementarians like Keller insist that that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a part of biblical womanhood, but Acts 2 is not; why the presence of twelve male disciples implies restrictions on female leadership, but the presence of the apostle Junia is inconsequential; why the Greco - Roman household codes represent
God's ideal familial structure for husbands and wives, but not for slaves and masters; why the apostle Paul's instructions to Timothy about Ephesian women teaching in the church are universally applicable, but his instructions to Corinthian women regarding head coverings are culturally conditioned (even though Paul uses the same line of argumentation — appealing the creation narrative — to support both); why the poetry of Proverbs 31 is often applied prescriptively and
other poetry is not; why Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob represent the supremecy of male leadership while Deborah and Huldah and Miriam are mere exceptions to the rule; why «wives submit to your husbands» carries more weight than «submit one to another»; why the laws of the Old Testament are treated as irrelevant in one moment, but important enough to display in public courthouses and schools the next; why a feminist reading of the text represents a capitulation to culture but a reading that turns an
ancient Near Eastern text into an apologetic for the post-Industrial Revolution nuclear family is not; why the curse of Genesis 3 has the final word on gender relationships rather than the new creation that began at the resurrection.
Consequently, according to Moltmann and
others, the only
God we can believe in now is a
God who suffers, and the
ancient Christian doctrines of divine simplicity, immutability, and impassibility must be discarded.
Together with the opening line of the Letter to the Hebrews («In
ancient times
God spoke to man through prophets and in varied ways, but now he speaks through Christ, His Son...»), as well as many
other biblical texts, this passage reveals to us a startling truth.
Two
other ancient prayers, the eleventh of the Eighteen Benedictions, from the period before the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, and the Alenu prayer, probably from the third century AD, both use a form of the verb mlk, «to reign, be king», with
God as the subject.
The teaching of Jesus, on the
other hand, not only regularly uses the verb to come in connection with the Kingdom and avoids the
other verbs more characteristic of
ancient Judaism, it also never speaks of
God «appearing» as king as do the Jewish texts.
You know all of that, but you're still able to hear these as true stories, as metaphorical narratives using
ancient archetypal language to make, among
other affirmations, that Jesus is the light coming into the darkness, to make the affirmation that the Herods of this world constantly seek to destroy that which is born of
God.
The
ancient world was a brutal place — to scare these people you needed a
god that was more brutal than any
other.
The Bible itself gives the purpose of prophecy, «Remember the former things long past, for I am
God, and there is no
other; I am
God, and there is no one like Me, declaring the end from the beginning and from
ancient times things which have not been done...» (Isaiah 46:9, 10, NASB).
The result is that America is a nation deeply divided between people who are concerned about real - life issues — war and peace, social justice, the health and welfare of people — on one hand, and
other people who are concerned, instead, about «values,» by which they mean adherence to
ancient taboos, dependence on a magical
God, enforcing acceptance of
ancient creeds, requiring everyone to believe as they do, and finding safety in raw (though often hidden) social and economic power.
Indeed both Jews and Christians have, on occasions, been labeled atheists, since they rejected all
other gods and refrained from portraying their own
God YHWH in any of the forms that
ancient man associated with the
gods.
Unfortunately, as a former Christian, well acquainted with sin and confession and the whole bloody business of sacrifice to appease Someone who thinks that shows «love,» I question the whole
ancient story, all the animals killed, all the trees cut down (for temples and churches and crosses and «holy books») and all the human beings left to feel separated again and again from the universe, Nature, each
other and their «
gods.»
Was this divine LORD of Israel simply one of the
ancient gods, who was now raised to such supremacy in the minds of the Israelites that all
other rival
gods gradually lost their effective reality?
The Deuteronomic commandment, in
other words, is
God's inspired revelation to his people - it is trustworthy and authoritative - but it must be understood both in terms of the historical realities of life in
ancient Israel (the people's sin) and in terms of
God's wider revelation in the whole of Scripture.
Ancient literature, like modern fairy tales, is full of narratives in which
gods and
other supernatural beings disguise themselves as human beings, sometimes as the lowest of the low, and roam throughout the world to see how people will treat them.
What we have here is a «ladder of being» not uncommon in
ancient times: there is
God at the top, with human beings below
God but above all
other animals, and there are also beings above humans.
If
God uses hurricanes, tsunamis, bridge collapses and
other such events to destroy the guilty and innocent alike, then it's no reach to conclude that he also ordered
ancient Israel to slaughter their enemies, that he caused the earth to open and swallow people who disobeyed and so on.
Whatever fault we may find with that document in
other respects — and Anglicans may be grateful that it is no longer commonly said, as
ancient prayer books required, at public worship on certain great festivals of the Christian year — it gives us the right understanding of this triunitarian conception of
God when it affirms «This is the Catholic faith: that we worship Godhead in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity.»
However, if I was an
ancient Israelite, and I saw things like the Red Sea parting, staff turned into snakes, and the Shekinah glory, and prophets predicting specific future events with 100 % accuracy, and
other nations setting their face against Israel to destroy her and / or engaged in human sacrifice, and they weren't typical humans but were actually a group of hybrids like the Nephalim or the Rephaim that were polluting the gene pool to try to foil
God's plan of ultimately bringing a Messiah to save all mankind one day, and
God wanted them to repent and sent them warning after warning, and they refused, and
God commanded me thus....
In no
other culture or span of time has man's understanding of
God's ways progressed so much as in
ancient Israel.
America was founded on Christian beliefs, and even atheists should honor and respect these beliefs (RE:
Ancient Laws (Jefferson)-RRB- even though they do not believe in
God... and just as we are told to respect them they should also respect us; sounds like they like being bullies; it should be understood that all can have their own opinion, but we should not condemn each
other for different opinions.
Here's another truth about evolution: the
god of the Mormons is a twist on the
god of mainstream Christians, who is a twist on the
god of Israel who was based on
other gods of
ancient folklore and created by
ancient man in man's image.
But there is nothing in the universe that points to any of the
gods of
ancient myth as anything
other than the desire for self - acknowledgement within a narrative structure.
In such cases if we were enemies we should at least have respect towards each
other after all we still in need of each
other in business, trades, consumer market Goods...
God knows what else for centuries that we might have exchanged no matter who were the real pirates or bandits to the
other all through
ancient and modern history...
A third characteristic — not unique since it is shared at least superficially by
other ancient law codes — is, of course, that all the law is seen as, in very fact, the law of
God.
Now, keep going... and find out that the
ancient Middle Eastern Hebrew ethnocentric war
god, YHWH, is a fantasy, just like all of the
other gods dreamed up by humans.
In fact for the greater part of their history
ancient Israel believed that
other gods existed — for
other nations.
That David or
other people did these things in
ancient times proves nothing about
God or people's concept of him.
This is how much care
God took in creating the Earth — He included an amazing diversity of fossils representing
ancient humans and
other creatures that never existed, just to keep us guessing.
He consitantly re-directed attention to his father that sent him and away from himself as anything
other than a tool being used by
God to complete the
ancient God Yahweh's will.
To these examples (or their
ancient equivflents) and countless
others, the eighth Commandment called Israel and later called the Christian community to live out a standard of radical personal honesty in obedience to the
God who established our Covenant.
All Christians know, of course, that it is through
God's self - outpouring upon the cross that we are saved, and that we are made able by grace to participate in Christ's suffering; but this should not obscure that
other truth revealed at Easter: that the incarnate
God enters «this cosmos» not simply to disclose its immanent rationality, but to break the boundaries of fallen nature asunder, and to refashion creation after its
ancient beauty» wherein neither sin nor death had any place.
The Israelites wrote as
ancient people, and their argument for why Yahweh is above all the
others gods (see, for example, Psalm 95) only worked because of the shared mythic categories between Israel and her neighbors.»