In short, the sacraments have come to depend on human agency — our ability to remember God — rather than on what God
out of his grace does.
Not exact matches
We also need to reevaluate our relationships with God and find
out if we have lost sight
of that balance between walking in God's
grace and
doing what we can to serve Him here on earth.
Seems to me, if God really wanted to offer this thing called
grace, he would not
do it in the fashion
of a drug dealer, so that you would run
out in a few hours and desperately come back for more.
But until we come to the end
of ourselves then we are going to
do and say what we want, even as it was with me: It's one thing to be a heathen, even as I was, but a whole other ball game to set our hearts on God and His truth; yet, that can only come when we are sick and tired
of being sick and tired
of our own lives and we just give up, we know then who has given up by the one they advocate for, even has given place to: Paul said; with my heart I want to
do what is right, but my flesh
does what I hate: This is when God's
grace is sufficient, because our hearts are right with God, but our flesh is not: There is a war going on within these temples, therefore; even as our flesh wins
out to
do what we hate, our hearts are set on God and His ways which has been established in the Word
of Truth, which then causes us to stand and speak forth what we believe, even as this causes a rending to happen within us, for Christ to be formed in us this needs to be, as we come up in His glories even for a better resurrection for them who believe: The heart wars against our flesh, even as Christ wars against the man
of sin within: For
out of the abundance
of our hearts our mouth doth speak, therefore; if we speak not the Wholesome Words
of our Lord, Then our hearts are still wicked: But to advocate for wickedness instead
of Christ, one has become a teacher
of lawlessness, he then advocates for the man
of sin: Many who have come
out of religion has
done this, as they went from one mountain top «from the extreme right»
of self exaltation (Religion) to the other mountain top «to the extreme left»
of the (Heathen) and missed the valley in - between that is takes to humble us: One extreme to the other, and missed Jesus: Jesus is taking ones through the valley's to strip us down
of all who we are before exalting us to be just as He, even as the Christ in us overcomes that man
of sin (Adam) through theses valleys
of contrast that cause a rending to happen within; and when we are rent in two, we stand on His word
of truth, so we too can become one with Him, even as Jesus is with our Father: This is how Christ is formed in us: Thank - you Father; in Jesus Name Alexandria
Dreher is not wrong to alert us to the destructive power individualism and unbridled desire exert on the social fabric, but he would
do even better to recognize that, by God's
grace, new forms
of order manage to emerge
out of the apparent chaos
of social fragmentation.
It states that sinfulness
does not proceed from God, hence my belief that God
did not cause people to crucify the Lord Jesus Christ, and that He (God) from all Eternity,
out of His Will, ordains what comes to pass, hence
out of His Sovereign
Grace, Will, Wisdom, and Command fore - ascertained the «Ultimate Provision» for our Salvation
out of the betrayal
of man, before the foundation
of the world.
If you want your marriage to be characterized by
grace - filled communication,
do the work
of figuring
out why your default tends toward impatience.
But this past week I was talking to someone about
grace, and they objected with the
grace litmus test, and I don't know what happened, but I sighed
out of exasperation and decided to give a different answer than the one I had always given before.
And we have all watched you boldly take the way
of abundance — no matter how it seemed like it didn't matter — because God makes meaning
out of messes, because He is the God who can make all our brokenness into abundance, because, you and I say this back to each other over and over again: The Writer
of the story has written Himself into the hardest places
of yours and is softening the broken edges
of everything with redeeming, abundant
grace.»
Now, I am the president
of a
grace based motorcycle ministry that reaches
out to those on the street in addiction, to those in criminal biker gangs, and to those who want nothing to
do with traditional churches.
The sheer unpredictability
of city encounters makes it impossible to presume, as many churches
do, that God's
grace must be sequential — measured
out at regular intervals in baptism, confirmation, communion, marriage, burial — and will happen to everyone at the prescribed time, in the same way.»
If the thought
of enduring your marriage or lack
of marriage for the rest
of your life is daunting, it is because God doesn't hand
out grace in a lifetime supply.
If you have stepped
out somewhere where you shouldn't have
done then the conviction as a child
of God will surely come but I tell you this, if Satan
did not hold back on trying to kill the baby Jesus, and many children were slaughtered in that process, if he even thought he knew the scriptures so well he could try to deceive Jesus, and he
did try then you can be sure that for every believer there is an adversary who would
do anything to stop you from finding the forgiveness and
grace of God that has the power to wash you clean
of anything.
If I really embrace the idea
of grace and believe it on a level beyond a simple mental agreement, then it doesn't matter if I'm
out there «naked.»
If by the power
of God's
grace we are in a position to accept ourselves as pilgrims, as mortal men seeking their way with difficulty through the darkness, as failing again and again and yet bound in duty to an earthly task; if the Church effects that acceptance by celebrating the death
of the Lord, and makes us men
of prayer who are really conscious
of the future judgment
of God, if the Church sends its children strengthened with God's
grace out into their own maturity which burdens them but sets them free, then the Church by its official ministry has
done what it alone can and must
do.
It is man who
did not conform to God's covenants, so He God
out of His
Grace kept easing off the yoke and ending with the «Ultimate Provision» for our Salvation through the Passion
of the Lord Jesus Christ, the New Covenant.
«It is man who
did not conform to God's covenants, so He God
out of His
Grace kept easing off the yoke and ending with the «Ultimate Provision»»
I think God speaks clearly in these times because
of his silence it means he has had enough
of our ways we havent listened we have gone our own way we havent acted on what his prophets have spoken so he distances himself until such time that we will take him seriously.Thats how it was in the old testament he allowed his people to go into captivity or bondage when they refused to obey his word.We see this pattern repeated over and over for example In Egypt when they were in slavery it wasnt until the people acknowledged there sin and cried
out to God to save them and he
did by sending a savior moses.Because we have Christ we have
grace he wont spurn us like he used to because Christ took away our reproach and he is free to love us despite our sinfulness.brentnz
i
do nt know wheather you are still living in Law or
Grace, but thats what i encourage you to find out, cause nothing seem to make since, when your still trying to live under the Law, you must except the free gift of righteousness by grace through faith, if not, you will always come under condemnation, I experience this for years, Oh Thank God I Am Free, Read Romans, Galation, and ephisans, and H
Grace, but thats what i encourage you to find
out, cause nothing seem to make since, when your still trying to live under the Law, you must except the free gift
of righteousness by
grace through faith, if not, you will always come under condemnation, I experience this for years, Oh Thank God I Am Free, Read Romans, Galation, and ephisans, and H
grace through faith, if not, you will always come under condemnation, I experience this for years, Oh Thank God I Am Free, Read Romans, Galation, and ephisans, and Hebews
Jeremy Myers, i think you are wrong and David is right, so many
out there are preaching you can live any way you want and be right that
Grace covers any sin, they really believe that, that is not what the bible says, God was very concerned about sin so much he sent Jesus his son to die on a cross for us, if we accept Jesus as our savor then we are to obey his commandments, not break them, we are to live a righteous and holy life as possible, the bible plainly list a whole list of things if we live in will not to to heaven unless we repent, if we die while in these sins, we will not go to heaven, what is the difference, between someone who said a prayer and someone who did not, and they are living the same way, none, i think, if we are truly saved it should be hard to do these things let alone live and do them everyday, i would be afraid to tell people that it does not matte grace covers their sins, i really think it is the slip ups that we are convicted of by the Holy Spirit and we ask for forgivness, how can anyones heart be right with God and they have sex all the time out of marriage, lie, break every commandment of God, i don't think this is meaning grace covers those sins, until they repent and ask for forgiveness, a lot of people will end up in hell because preachers teach Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word of God, God hates
Grace covers any sin, they really believe that, that is not what the bible says, God was very concerned about sin so much he sent Jesus his son to die on a cross for us, if we accept Jesus as our savor then we are to obey his commandments, not break them, we are to live a righteous and holy life as possible, the bible plainly list a whole list
of things if we live in will not to to heaven unless we repent, if we die while in these sins, we will not go to heaven, what is the difference, between someone who said a prayer and someone who
did not, and they are living the same way, none, i think, if we are truly saved it should be hard to
do these things let alone live and
do them everyday, i would be afraid to tell people that it
does not matte
grace covers their sins, i really think it is the slip ups that we are convicted of by the Holy Spirit and we ask for forgivness, how can anyones heart be right with God and they have sex all the time out of marriage, lie, break every commandment of God, i don't think this is meaning grace covers those sins, until they repent and ask for forgiveness, a lot of people will end up in hell because preachers teach Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word of God, God hates
grace covers their sins, i really think it is the slip ups that we are convicted
of by the Holy Spirit and we ask for forgivness, how can anyones heart be right with God and they have sex all the time
out of marriage, lie, break every commandment
of God, i don't think this is meaning
grace covers those sins, until they repent and ask for forgiveness, a lot of people will end up in hell because preachers teach Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word of God, God hates
grace covers those sins, until they repent and ask for forgiveness, a lot
of people will end up in hell because preachers teach
Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word of God, God hates
Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one
of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word
of God, God hates sin,
And I thought the whole point
of what you were saying is that being demon possessed doesn't mean that you are locked
out of under God's
grace so I mean how can saying that someone is demon - possessed lock them outside
of it??
It's pretty bad when, despite all our Bible study, prayer, and theological reading and writing, we have to learn about
grace from those who don't believe in God, who have been kicked
out of our churches, and who feel only judgment and condemnation from us.
Grace got me
out of the church, hopefully before I
did too much damage but it is a subtle thing that often takes distance and time to see clearly
If God required me to
do 52 jumping jacks while holding my tongue
out and crossing my eyes to be forgiven
of my sin then I would still be saved by
grace no matter how much sweat I produced in the process.
one day at a time with the fresh
Grace and mercy that is poured
out on and in your heart to take and share with someone you might have hurt that is very dear to you, that is empowerment that is forgiveness that brings peace beyond all understanding KNOWING that there is NO ONE that Has control
of your life any more, that is the freedom that not only
did this UNITED STATES not fully recieve but is being stolen from them one citizen at a time,
do they care ah let me see?
Yet, as Bishop Spong points
out, if it was a gay male who taught the Christian church what the love
of God means, who defined
grace for all people; and who, tortured and rejected as he must have felt, came to understand what resurrection means as God's vindicating act, then in a sense we
do owe him a debt
of gratitude.
He points
out, for example, that while strict Whiteheadian thought
does not allow for any «true end (finis) or beginning the biblical witness, on the contrary, is pervaded throughout its length and breadth with the concept
of a movement
of God's
grace toward an end that is both teleos and finis» (111).
We simple don't see Paul chastising anyone because that person stepped
out of their rolls (i.e., age, gender,
graces...) However, Paul
does remind all present in ekklesia not to press the women to
do what would be adverse to all that the sisters had chosen in their righteousness.
The idea is not so much to pray to God for help in finding a way
out of an alcohol problem; it has more to
do with humility — «cleaning house» so that the «
grace of God can enter us and expel the obsession.»
Poverty and wealth can then become the venue in which redemption once accepted leads to a working
out of salvation for both the giver
of the cloak and the recipient,
done within the life
of grace.
They don't like the idea
of this
grace thing getting
out of hand.
I
did this not
out of disdain for Scripture, but
out of love for it,
out of respect for the fact that interpreting and applying the Bible is a messy, imperfect and - at times - frustrating process that requires humility and
grace as we wrestle the text together.
Taking a page
out of the First Things playbook, Jackson urges Muslim Americans to «articulate the practical benefits
of the rules
of Islamic law in terms that gain them recognition by society at large,» something that can be
done by drawing on the Islamic tradition
of practical reasoning that has family resemblances to the Catholic use
of natural law and Protestant analysis
of «common
grace.»
Jeremy have been asking the holy spirit for his help with this and in regards to the lame man that Jesus healed I
do nt believe that sin was the issue for him just like the blind man was it his parents or
did he sin the answer was neither but so that God would be glorified.What was the sin that may have been worse for him.The two situations are related
of the woman caught in adultery the key words being go and sin no more only two references in the bible and will explain later the lame man we see at first his dependency on everyone else for his needs he cant
do it he is in the best position to receive Gods
grace but what
does he
do with it.
Does he follow Jesus no we are told he goes to the temple and Jesus finds him now that he has his strength to
do things on his own what his response to follow the way
of the pharisees that is what is worse than his condition before so he is warned by go and sin no more.We get confused because we see the word sin but the giver
of is speaking to him to go another way means death.Getting back to the two situations
of the woman caught in adultery and the lame man here we see a picture
of our hearts on the one our love for sin and on the other the desire to work
out our salvation on our terms they are the two areas we have to submit to God.My experience was the self righteousness was the harder to deal with because it is linked in to our feelings
of self worth and self confidence so we have to be broken so we are humble enough to realise that without God we can
do nothing our flesh hates that so it is a struggle at first to change our way
of thinking.brentnz
by the
grace of god — jesus may have simply appeared to be anything but the son
of god... and thru charm and guise won over the sad and lonely turning humble men into preachers
of dreams... he taught them how to look stylish in order to get what they needed while being perfunctory... all the while having the semblance
of a godly man
doing gods work... for hand
outs — lets not forget they were poor, aging people on the fringes
of society.
@Tom, Tom, the Other One: If you know someone is atheist,
do you keep trotting
out the saving
grace of your imaginary saviour?
Payne wouldn't completely rule
out a one - show reunion with Point
of Grace, which remained a trio after Payne left, but at the same time, she's content
doing concerts with Sandi Patty and Wayne Watson and the occasional chance to lead worship at friends» churches.
While there's still much learning to be
done, I have found the light in teh
grace of Jesus Go
out and
do real research if you're truly intersted in learning and gaining knowledge, posting stupid arguments on these boards accomplishes nothing and only shows people's willful ignorance.
If you know someone is atheist,
do you keep trotting
out the saving
grace of your imaginary saviour?
Jeremy I agree its not about what we can
do but all about what Jesus has
done for us it is all about his
grace not following mans laws or trying to please the pastor or the church.Be respectful for those in authority and show them Gods love work hard as for the Lord as you serve them and pray for them but
do nt try and please them.We no longer follow the ways
of the world we live to please the Lord and worship him not man because that is idolatory.Thats why religion
does nt work we can
do nothing to add to Gods
grace.
Grace is also not a licence to sin as some christians believe and God is not fooled if we
do not repent and turn from our sin he
does nt hear our prayers if the intents
of our heart are wrong.God listens to the humble and the repentent sinner or saint.The journey in following Christ is about how much
do we want to follow Jesus to discover the abundant life and richs in Christ we must fully give him all our hearts and serve him wholehearted
out of thankfulness for his
grace and mercy towards us.brentnz
Who are we to judge what God
does or allows he has his reasons who can fathom his ways he sees the end from the beginning and is not limited to time or space like we are.
Does God want anything the answer is Yes he wants a relationship with us that is why he sent his son because he had a purpose in creating us.However the wages
of sin is death in this scripture alone regardless
of what happens here we all deserve to die God could have wiped us all
out with another flood for who
of us is worthy.It is by
grace that we live and yes bad things
do happen to good people just as it
does for the wicked is it to test our faith i
do not know but i
do know that God gives us the
grace to endure through trials and difficulty and that all things
do work for Good if we love him..
Only when by God's
grace we get to see all those «angel faces smile,» will we know more
of what providence variously has
done for us through the influence
of Newman who, as the elderly daughter
of one
of his Birmingham schoolboys once told me, was called «Jack» by them — but only
out of earshot.
SouthernCelt, yeah... just like every abusive father who defends his beating
of his sons, and raping
of his own daughters by him, by pointing
out that he puts food on the table, and a roof over their heads, and clothes on their backs, so they should be grateful and take their beatings and rapings with
grace and praise him publicly, for the «good» he
does for them.
And with the cup, so clear a symbol
of his blood in that red wine, he saw, as we
did, that his life, poured forth, would seal a new commitment, would form upon the altar
of God's
grace a whole new covenant that would replace the ancient, worn -
out slaughter
of the animals with one complete and final act, the sacrifice
of God's own son to show the world, to show us all the height and depth and majesty, the eternal glory
of God's love, which gives itself forever, or until we come, at last, and offer up our own lives in return.
A narrative
of a Lenten meditation in poetic form written from the standpoint
of the apostle Thomas: And if it were not for his love, his
grace that sought me
out behind locked doors, called me to touch and then believe, I would not be here at your humble table ready now with you, to break the bread and pour the wine as he
did years ago.
He
did this
out of His great love and
grace for us.
And, as always, there are those whose conveniently confected outrage makes them happy to administer the coup de
grace: The pinkie - to - the - wind politicians and those principled champions
of the people, the corporate CEOs who are happy to
do business with the humanitarian House
of Saud while courageously calling
out the mutaween
of Indiana.
So, as when a Christian first joins God's Church, he
does so through the formal Church rite
of the sacrament
of baptism, and as when his life further progresses it is marked and strengthened by other sacraments
of the Church, so when he had damaged his relationship with God and his Church, and, by
doing so, threatened or injured that
of others, a sacrament
of the Church makes provision or formal statements
of sorrow by the sinner,
of God's forgiveness by his Church, and for a means
of spiritual help,
grace, to help the sinner to carry
out his intention to amend.
But now since God has taken my salvation
out of my hands into his, making it depend on his choice and not mine, and has promised to save me, not by my own work or exertion, but by his
grace and mercy, I am assured and certain that he is faithful and will not lie to me... if we
do less than we should or
do it badly, he
does not hold it against us.
I don't go to church to be fed but to feed others
out of the overflow
of His love and
grace.