I deal with the double honor passage and a few others, and talk about some of the pitfalls of getting
paid as a pastor.
At the time, I didn't think I could pastor unless I was getting
paid as pastor.
Not exact matches
I was eventually laid - off to due to «lack of funds» (which I have in writing) it seemed
as though people in our congregation began fleeing contemporary church and we couldn't
pay me and the Lead
Pastor (who sat in his office day in, day out)... I won't settle for another stagnant «building - pastor» gig, I pr
Pastor (who sat in his office day in, day out)... I won't settle for another stagnant «building -
pastor» gig, I pr
pastor» gig, I promise.
Same goes for the tiny - pope syndrome, and contempt for
pastors who don't get
paid as being «not good enough to get a
paid position.»
But, I have a big kicker for you, I am a
Pastor and have been pastoring for six years, I'm also 4th generation owner of a business that has allowed me to
pay for all of the ministry and
pay for staff
as well.
What would you do if they came to you and said,» We want you to keep
paying all our bills, but we want a different man
as our
pastor»?
If a group of believers wants to own a building and
pay a
pastor, this isn't necessarily sinful,
as long
as they make these of secondary importance.
Some students had offered to have their Wesley Foundation serve
as a kind of collective
pastor to a church that could no longer afford to
pay a preacher and was slated to close.
As a
pastor who gets «
paid» for ministry, I don't disagree with your conclusion.
If you have a Church building then ask the
pastor to open it to the homeless
as its really Gods building since he
paid for it.
The point is this, if you are being
paid as a preacher /
pastor or any other service you offer to the church then I would urge you to escape from it and step into the unknown.
Me thinks I hit a nerve on komrade Rationalintn By the way komrade I
pay taxes
as do every Christian that I know... including Christian
pastors.
A relatively few daring souls, such
as Pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer, said they were wrong, and
paid with their lives.
If a
pastor quotes 1 Corinthians 9:14
as a way to demand that the people he minister to should
pay his salary, he is using 1 Corinthians 9:14 in exactly the opposite way that Paul was using it.
The LDS Church does not have
paid clergy, and this is one way that volunteer ward
pastors, or the bishops, can make sure members get personal attention and lessons
as needed.
Our church attendance has been WAY down; the
pastor is officially «retired,» so no longer being
paid — but IS listed
as a member of one of the «teams» which still bear the name of the church they left.
Arguably, perhaps,
as little business
as many churches have
paying a
pastor, they have less reason to take on a mortgage.
I
pay my counselor a lot of money to meet at pre-scheduled times — but
as a
pastor I've dropped everything, many times, to help out someone in our community and often I buy the coffee.
Perhaps the reason we have to stretch to come up with Scriptures that support
paying a
pastor is because the concept of
pastor as we know it did not exist in the first century, and the concept of
paying elders was absent.
Well again, some have argued that if «honor» in 1 Timothy 5:3 means
paying widows enough to live on, «double honor» in 5:17 means
paying pastors twice
as much.
Secondly, Paul made it very clear to young Timothy, who was an elder /
pastor who was directing the church affairs well, and so was worthy of double honour, that is, honour and respect,
as well
as being
paid wages, which he so clearly pointed out in the context.
For example, although many churches can afford a
paid, full - time lead
pastor, those same churches can not afford the supporting full - time staff such
as worship leaders, children's and youth
pastors, and the
pastor must work to supplement his salary.
When Christianity became a business, and you get a degree in order to have that particular job is where these verses needed to misconstrued so that «
pastors»
as worldly job could get
paid.
As to why have
paid pastors, I believe in the pastorate and feel there is value in it.
Maybe not for every
pastor who is out there,
as many are not getting
paid very well at all, but there are many more who are living quite well, and are using misused and abused passages from Scripture to justify their lifestyle, and to guilt more and more needy people into giving sacrificially from their income.
I realize I don't look like it, being a
paid pastor of a church with a building which is part of a denomination which is recognized
as being within Christendom.
However, women have served
as pastors in Vermont churches partly because many of those churches are small, rural and low -
paying.
They have the same
pay scale
as male
pastors and can function in almost every way the male
pastor can.
As fans and critics wait to see what Rob Bell does next after leaving Mars Hill Bible Church last October in the wake of all the hubbub over Love Wins, his website gives a fresh glimpse of what the
pastor and author is up to now: offering fellow
pastors (and others) the chance to
pay $ 500 to pick his brain.
A church that is registered
as a 501 (c)(3) non-profit organization risks loosing it's non-profit status (translated: have to
pay corporate taxes) if it's
pastor preaches about ANY political issues / topics from the pulpit.
In what appears to be a response to
Pastor Mensah Otabil's assertion that he does not
pay attention to local media content due to excessive political discussions, and instead chooses to watch animals on Television, former President John Dramani Mahama, has described that posture
as hypocritical.
The Daily News
pays homage to Ralph Farrait, or «
Pastor Ralph,»
as he was known on the Bronx boxing scene.
The U-Haul truck opens its sliding door for the first time since Adeline, Kentucky, unleashing the stale air from the small southern town that used to be Grace Salter's home, back when her mother was still a dutiful Baptist church leader (though not technically a «
pastor,» because
as a woman in a church belonging to the Southern Baptist Convention, she could not technically claim the official title, nor its significantly higher
pay grade, even with her PhD in Ministry and more than a decade of service).
However, this moral and legal obligation to
pay just debts must be balanced by such considerations
as the need for compassion and the call to cancel debts at reasonable intervals.Your
pastor or minister may advise you on the interpretation of Scriptural passages and how they apply to Bankruptcy.
The court found that it was the borrower's choice to work
as a
pastor for a start - up church rather than try to find a higher
paying job.
The sheriff avoided the media at a prayer service Thursday that was held in his honor at a Pompano church run by BSO associate chaplain John Mohorn, a
pastor whom Israel put on the BSO payroll and who
as of last year was being
paid $ 68,000 a year in taxpayers» money.