I guess AW
played him out of position too.
and Wenger did not help by how he used him............
he played him out of position too many times..........
Not exact matches
Wenger
plays too many
out of position!
As regards our defense i won't blame the players
too much for last night result, the manager is to be blamed for not fully prepared and
playing players
out of position, i think if the manager had called the players in a week earlier than he did, Mustafi at least would have been fit to
play, but the result wasn't that bad as most fans make it seems..
-- consistent injury issue — no signings (when we need them and there are better players
out there than we have in our team / squad)-- no strength in depth (kids, or not sufficient quality bought)-- no consistency in performance (motivation)-- tactical nativity and inflexibility — players
played out of position or
too Many like minded players accommodated in same line up.
Reus or Schneiderlin can be specialists in their
position, the best in the world in the
positions too... and Wenger will
play them
out of position almost the whole time at Arsenal.
Stevens
played a traditional big
position for Connecticut because
of the Huskies» lack
of size, but she showed in her first two seasons at Duke that can stretch
out to the wing and
play on the perimeter,
too.
Ramsey — overpaid, overused, injury prone, not clinical enough as a passer or finisher and he's
played out of position way
too much to the detriment
of our supposed offensive and defensive schemes... obviously I think he has some skills and I'm pleased he didn't let his horrible injury years ago end his career but he holds on to the ball
too much, gives away the ball
too often and
too cheaply, doesn't
play good enough defensively considering the previous concern and often finds himself to far up the pitch way
too often for a guy who doesn't score or assist near enough... better suited for Wales where the team is set up to accommodate his and Bales skills
In the midfield, (including RWB & LWB) we have a whole bunch
of tweeners... none offer the full package, none make sense in our manager's current favourite formation, except for Sead on the left and Ox on the right, and all
of them have never shown any consistency for more than a heartbeat... Sead, who I'm including in this category because
of our present formation, looks like a positive addition, minus his occasional brain farts, but I would rather see what he could do in a back 4 before making my mind up... Ox, who has never
played better, which isn't saying much considering his largely underwhelming
play in previous seasons, seems to have found a home in this new formation; unfortunately, can we really expect this oft - injured player to handle the taxing duties that come with said
position over the long haul, not to mention, it looks like he has no intention
of staying... Ramsey has relied on the empathy that stems from his gruesome injury years ago and the excitement that was generated a few years back when he finally seemed to put in altogether, but on the whole he has been a big disappointment (neither he nor the Ox have scored enough to warrant a regular spot)... Wiltshire should be put on a weekly contract then
played until he suffers his first injury, if and when that occurs he should be shipped -
out and no one should very be allowed to say his name on club grounds ever again... Elnehy & Coq are average players who couldn't make any
of the top 7 teams currently in the EPL... both have showed some great energy on the pitch, but neither are top quality and no good team can afford to have that many average players on their bench
playing the same
position, especially with Coq's injury history / discipline concerns and Elheny's headless chicken tendencies... as for Xhaka, his tenure here so far has been incredibly underwhelming... we know he has some skills to provide the long ball but his defensive work is piss poor and he gives the ball away
too cheaply and far
too often... finally, the enigma himself, Ozil, so much skill with his left foot but his presence has been more frustrating than uplifting... in many respects his failure has been directly related to the failure
of this club to provide him with the necessary players up front, minus Sanchez
of course, and unless something drastic happens very soon his legacy will be largely a negative one (much like Wenger's)
but overall, there are
too many obvious mistakes he's made in transfers,
playing players
out of position.
But if he is going to be
played all over the park and
out of position and lose his confidence as a result, get benched for no apparent reason then 125,000 per week is
too much IMO.
Yesterday we
played way
too many players
out of position.
Arsenal
play with fire by passing the ball around
too much especially in our third, it invites the opposition to push up and put pressure, something which Arsenal are known to fold against, especially
playing players
out of position like Monreal.
Wilshere might
play slightly
out of position but his form is so good that I don't expect that to affect him
too much.
«Wenger is
playing XYZ
out of position» «Wenger needs to be like Mourinho» «Wenger is
too old» «Wenger just sits and watches» «Wenger is
too tall he needs to be shorter... like Mourinho»
The problem is when you have an average defensive midfielder then your backline can never be at rest.Coquelin should have started this match.Some people think he's average but I feel he's been
played out of position and being tasked with doing
too much like a box to box player.How can someone who bases his game on tackling and interception lose that ability all
of a sudden and you tell me nothing's wrong but bdcause he's average.Are we fans going to ignore what is plain to us?Let's just pretend things are alright.Then after we win the cracks will be papered only for them to be exposed another day.
(not to mention his other foibles such as under - rotation, subbing
too late,
playing players
out of position).
To accommodate Wilshere you
play him
out of position and then Ozil
too.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety
of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style
of play has become a shadow
of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and
play» mentality where players
play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying
position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide
positions, without the aid
of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance
play quickly
out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but
too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs
out wide, we've seen pace from the likes
of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted
play of Monreal, but none
of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was
playing and his ratio
of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched
played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball
too long, gives the ball away cheaply far
too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so
too... Xhaka is a little
too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball
play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part
of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he
played with Coq Wenger always seemed to
play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way
too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far
too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part
of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature
of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player
of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been
played out of position far
too many times since arriving and that the players in front
of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus
too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table
too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that,
of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit
too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one
of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back
position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one
of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already
of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs
of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball
too long and he will give the ball up a little
too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter...
too slow,
too inefficient and way
too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack
of mobility is an albatross around the necks
of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because
of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
In term
of CB, people are forgetting that the youth academy have good players in Hayden and Ayaje.Southampton use to do well with their academy because the supporters will allow and accept the youths to be given a chance, now supporters from a big team like Arsenal wants proven expensive world class players in order to win quickly in detriment to give a chance to the youths club.Wenger show preference to some in detriment
of others
too playing always the same player and giving few chance to others.Bendtner last year was treated badly, look
out this year for Campbell and why not give a chance to Ayaje and Hayden who are olders than Chambers in the cb
position, don t tell me it s about potential if they are not given a chance?
Cech's better days are behind him but he is still ahead
of Ospina in my view.We need a Top Tier GK next season and Oblak is being touted and this is the type
of quality we need to introduce in ALL
positions that need strengthening.Next season I would have the following pecking order for our keepers Oblak (or similar quality) Cech - He would relish a No2 roll with the cup games to keep him sharp Martinez - He will get his opportunities and follows Cech to No2 roll after 1or2 seasons Macey - loaned
out for season Ospina -
Too good not to
play regularly but NOT good enough to be AFC No.Sell him and let him enjoy some game time
Play everyone in their best
positions - lots
of pace, genuine width, to pull defenders
out and give us space in middle
too -
We needed a LW (instead
of playing cazorla / ozil
out of position) a DM (arteta is
too old) a CF (Giroud being our only real target man) and he hasn't done it.
I agree about Mustafi and the Cazorla link helped him
out and sometimes Granit does put the CBs under pressure because he can't find a forward pass or is
too scared
too, but facts are facts Mustafi made 1 start at the 2014 WC & 2 sub appearances making a total
of 132 minutes only in the group before he got injured, I disagree he «helped» Germany win the WC as he simply didn't
play enough and didn't
play any knockout games so was only a squad player who
played 1.5 games in total, he can
play well but tends to panick and finds himself
out of position ALL the time, he is a liability diving into tackles and trying to make interceptions he has no.
We have Alexis, Walcott and Oxlade - Chamberlain as
out - and -
out wingers and we also have Cazorla and Welbeck that can
play on the wings
too if need be, though I don't really like either being
played out of position.
Playing players
out of position, giving them
too much freedom and a few others.
In the start
of the season we were
playing with everyone
out of position, slow wilshair in the middle, slow Oz and Caz on the wing.Guess what were going nowhere.Wilshere got injured, ramsey
too and Ozil and Wenger was forced to
play people at their real
position and we started to win.
Nothing like one underachiever blowing smoke up the ass
of another... we know that Ozil has some incredible technical gifts, but to be considered the best you have to bring more than just assists to the table... for me, a top player has to possess a more well - rounded game, which doesn't mean they need to be a beast on both ends
of the pitch, but they must have the ability to take their game to another level when it matters most... although he amassed some record - like stats early on, it set the bar
too high, so when people expected him to duplicate those numbers each year the pressure seemed to get the best
of our soft - spoken star... obviously that's not an excuse for what has happened in the meantime, but it's important to make note
of a few things: (1) his best year was a transition year for many
of the traditionally dominant teams in the EPL, so that clearly made the numbers appear better than they actually were and (2) Wenger's system, or lack thereof, didn't do him any favours; by
playing him
out of position and by not acquiring world - class striker and / or right - side forward that would best fit an Ozil - centered offensive scheme certainly hurt his chances to repeat his earlier peformances, (3) the loss
of Cazorla, who took a lot
of pressure off Ozil in the midfield and was highly efficient when it came to getting him the ball in space, negatively impacted his effectiveness and (4) he likewise missed a good chunk
of games and frankly never looked himself when he eventually returned to the field... overall the Ozil experiment has had mixed reviews and rightfully so, but I do have some empathy for the man because he has always carried himself the same way, whether for Real or the German National team, yet he has only suffered any lengthy down periods with Arsenal... to me that goes directly to this club's inability to surround him with the necessary players to succeed, especially for someone who is a pass first type
of player; as such, this simply highlights our club's ineffective and antiquated transfer policies... frankly I'm disappointed in both Ozil and our management team for not stepping up when it counted because they had a chance to do something special, but they didn't have it in them... there is no one that better exemplifies our recent history than Ozil, brief moments
of greatness undercut by long periods
of disappointing
play, only made worse by his mopey posturing like a younger slightly less awkward Wenger... what a terribly waste
@Muda, I accept your formation but i would rather we use Coquelin at RB instead
of Bellerin, the hype about Bellerin is becoming
too much.Atleast for the few games I've watched him
play he seems to be very inexperienced and always cut
out of position, so i would prefer Coquelin as he has always done a good job each time he
plays at RB.
things wenger does baffle me: not buying the best in the window, thinking the world will pay his valuations, not subbing until 70th or even 80th minute, not rotating players between CL and PL,
playing players
out of position,
playing out -
of - form players
too much, leaving in - form bench players on the bench while the others are driven into the ground from 2 or 3 games in 8 days.....
RE = Monreal I'm surprised AW hasn't tried it yet, he has
played every player
out of position in the last few years, me personally we have
too much offensive
play in our game great to watch but creates congestion in the opposite goal and no one is left to guard the fort when opposition counter attack
(1) this squad has way
too many moving parts and very few
of our players are good enough at their preferred
position let alone relying on them in whatever
position Wenger and his magic eight ball decide in the tunnel prior to the game... when teams do this it generally signals issues within the club, much like Jose last year and Van Gael before him... no one gets settled, the chemistry is almost non-existent and if provides a built - in excuse when the team comes up short... these issues fall squarely on Wenger, both for his decisions regarding players coming in and for his inability to rid the team
of those players who aren't cutting it... in actually fact we have only 6 real starters on this current squad and that's being generous (Sanchez, Ozil, Lacazette, Sead, Kos & Cazorla)... which is discouraging because Cazorla is injured and might never
play again, Sanchez is wanting
out and the club is lying to us about his injury status, Lacazette receives no service, Ozil is relatively disinterested
out there, Kos is getting up there and Sead is just trying to settle in... there isn't a single other player that would start regularly on any
of the other top 3 teams, which should be the standard... imagine this team moving forward if Wenger only sells before the window closes
As
of right now we have
too many players that are
played out of positions and maybe they will adapt, maybe they won't.
He will be faster, more penetrative, some goals in there and will shield the four back players not
out of brute force but intelligence... He will not be a defensive midfielder, but a deep
positioned play maker... A Xavi
of Barcelona and the 4.1.4.1 AW attempted and found Arteta
too isolated could now work with a hard working Ramsey... imagine a 25 year old Arteta converted to his present role... definately he would be more effective than what we have today.
He is
too good a player to be
played out of position.
His side picked up a dramatic last - gasp win over Wales last time
out to put themselves in pole
position to finish top
of the group, although Slovakia's victory against Russia leaves them with plenty to
play for
too while the Welsh will also be hopeful
of picking up three points on Monday night.
Ramsey has had one good season for us since his horrible injury, he needlessly gives the ball away much
too often and his finishing is even worse than Giroud's... once again we have fallen in love with the idea
of what could have been... Ramsey has only scored 2 meaningful goals in his entire Arsenal tenure: one in Turkey and the other in last year's FA Cup, which is not near enough to make him a centerpiece
of this offence... likewise simply his presence on the team sheet has led Wenger into making horrible tactical blunders because he will force Ramsey into the lineup even when it doesn't make sense... just think
of all those games when Ramsey was
played out wide on the right, which forced the RB to come up into the
play far more often, and deeper, because Ramsey invariably would find himself in a more central
position leaving us far more vulnerable to the counterattack..
Ramsey 6 — Maybe not his fault as
played out of position on right but ran into trouble and came inside
too much and that MISS?!?
Time for some brutal honesty... this team, as it stands, is in no better
position to compete next season than they were 12 months ago, minus the fact that some fans have been easily snowed by the acquisition
of Lacazette, the free transfer LB and the release
of Sanogo... if you look at the facts carefully you will see a team that still has far more questions than answers... to better show what I mean by this statement I will briefly discuss the current state
of affairs on a
position - by -
position basis... in goal we have 4 potential candidates, but in reality we have only 1 option with any real future and somehow he's the only one we have actively tried to get rid
of for years because he and his father were a little
too involved on social media and he got caught smoking (funny how people still defend Wiltshire under the same and far worse circumstances)... you would think we would want to keep any goaltender that Juventus had interest in, as they seem to have a pretty good history when it comes to that
position... as far as the defenders on our current roster there are only a few individuals whom have the skill and / or youth worthy
of our time and / or investment, as such we should get rid
of anyone who doesn't meet those simple requirements, which means we should get rid
of DeBouchy, Gibbs, Gabriel, Mertz and loan
out Chambers to see if last seasons foray with Middlesborough was an anomaly or a prediction
of things to come... some fans have lamented wildly about the return
of Mertz to the starting lineup due to his FA Cup performance but these sort
of pie in the sky meanderings are indicative
of what's wrong with this club and it's wishy - washy fan - base... in addition to these moves the club should aggressively pursue the acquisition
of dominant and mobile CB to stabilize an all
too fragile defensive group that has self - destructed on numerous occasions over the past 5 seasons... moving forward and building on our need to re-establish our once dominant presence throughout the middle
of the park we need to target a CDM then do whatever it takes to get that player into the fold without any
of the usual nickel and diming we have become famous for (this kind
of ruthless haggling has cost us numerous special players and certainly can't help make the player in question feel good about the way their future potential employer feels about them)... in order for us to become dominant again we need to be strong up the middle again from Goalkeeper to CB to DM to ACM to striker, like we did in our most glorious years before and during Wenger's reign... with this in mind, if we want Ozil to be that dominant attacking midfielder we can't keep leaving him exposed to constant ridicule about his lack
of defensive prowess and provide him with the proper players in the final third... he was never a good defensive player in Real or with the German National squad and they certainly didn't suffer as a result
of his presence on the pitch... as for the rest
of the midfield the blame falls squarely in the hands
of Wenger and Gazidis, the fact that Ramsey, Ox, Sanchez and even Ozil were allowed to regularly start when none
of the aforementioned had more than a year left under contract is criminal for a club
of this size and financial might... the fact that we could find money for Walcott and Xhaka, who weren't even guaranteed starters, means that our whole business model needs a complete overhaul... for me it's time to get rid
of some serious deadweight, even if it means selling them below what you believe their market value is just to simply right this ship and change the stagnant culture that currently exists... this means saying goodbye to Wiltshire, Elneny, Carzola, Walcott and Ramsey... everyone, minus Elneny, have spent just as much time on the training table as on the field
of play, which would be manageable if they weren't so inconsistent from a performance standpoint (excluding Carzola, who is like the recent version
of Rosicky —
too bad, both will be deeply missed)... in their places we need to bring in some proven performers with no history
of injuries... up front, although I do like the possibilities that a player like Lacazette presents, the fact that we had to wait so many years to acquire some true quality at the striker
position falls once again squarely at the feet
of Wenger... this issue highlights the ultimate scam being perpetrated by this club since the arrival
of Kroenke: pretend your a small market club when it comes to making purchases but milk your fans like a big market club when it comes to ticket prices and merchandising... I believe the reason why Wenger hasn't pursued someone
of Henry's quality, minus a fairly inexpensive RVP, was that he knew that they would demand players
of a similar ilk to be brought on board and that wasn't possible when the business model was that
of a «selling» club... does it really make sense that we could only make a cheeky bid for Suarez, or that we couldn't get Higuain over the line when he was being offered up for half the price he eventually went to Juve for, or that we've only paid any interest to strikers who were clearly not going to press their current teams to let them go to Arsenal like Benzema or Cavani... just part
of the facade that finally came crashing down when Sanchez finally called their bluff... the fact remains that no one wants to win more than Sanchez, including Wenger, and although I don't agree with everything that he has done off the field, I would much rather have Alexis front and center than a manager who has clearly bought into the Kroenke model in large part due to the fact that his enormous ego suggests that only he could accomplish great things without breaking the bank... unfortunately that isn't possible anymore as the game has changed quite dramatically in the last 15 years, which has left a largely complacent and complicit Wenger on the outside looking in... so don't blame those players who demanded more and were left wanting... don't blame those fans who have tried desperately to raise awareness for several years when cracks began to appear... place the blame at the feet
of those who were well aware all along
of the potential pitfalls
of just such a plan but continued to follow it even when it was no longer a financial necessity, like it ever really was...
I'm ranting now, but as it stands we have the capability to rotate at CAM, CM, and both wings without losing
too much quality, but only as long as players aren't
played out of position.
We know Ozil has been
playing out of position and we do hope Wenger puts him in his natural role, but it's
too soon to say all this.
I've simply stated the
position he is
playing in is not my cup
of tea I prefer midfielders to have more in the locker, not really
too hard to comprehend and it's not blinds fault he's being asked tp
play the role he's
playing in, on matic I've mentioned him twice on these blogs thats it in all my time commenting that's hardlybmr keep mentioning him and I reply to those calling him a defensive mid, I've merely pointed
out he's got mire to his game than being a defensive midfielder, again not rocket science or hard to understand!
Why buy players and not
play them Why
play players
out of there natural
positions to accommodate others The 2 league games Rob Holding as
played this season he's had no protection in front
of him Our defence is exposed to far
too many 1 on1 situations IMO the easy part
of football is when you have the ball the difficult bit is when you don't have the ball and the discipline
of getting back into the right
position we lacked this today Sorry I've written this because I've never seen a display like this from Arsenal only a couple
of observations I've never cricticised Arsenal or Arsenal before Hope it can be put right
He has now looked at how the
playing staff could be improved
too, picking
out Real Madrid's Modric — who takes on a similar
position in the centre
of the field to the one Scholes
played in for United — as an ideal target.
Not only was there no attacking juice off the bench, but the attackers on the field bore
too much responsibility, and were
playing out -
of -
position to begin with.
The expansion will continue to
play with the Kingdom Battle formula in other ways
too with new arena hazards such as water fountains that blast you
out of position to new ramps that DK can utilise to cover large distances.
Most games can be
played from a seated
position, so going
out of view
of the camera is not something one has to worry
too much about.
There's little more annoying than perfectly
positioning yourself for a sneak attack, only to be foiled when one guard begins flanking you and your attempt to retaliate is
too slow or imprecise to effectively engage, resulting in the failure
of whatever keen
played you had laid
out.