In fact, you can say, that today you aren't really an offensive football team, if you can't make your offensive
players win back the ball high up on the pitch.
Added to his impressive passing on Saturday, Schneiderlin also made the highest number of «recoveries» - when
a player wins back the ball after it has gone loose - with his 15 the most for an outfield player.
Not exact matches
Half the time the
players wait for the
ball and let the Dortmund defender to apply pressure and
win it
back
These
players do allot for a championship
winning side, one thing they do is they make you harder to beat with their Sanchez like attitude when it comes to
winning the
ball back, another is you do nt feel the loss of the man he comes in for as much as you would usually.
And unlike us they like to use physical
players capable of
winning the
ball back from the opponent.
An anchor man is expected to provide cover for the
back four, hang
back win balls and the pass it on to the more creative
players to contribute to the attacks.
Against West Ham he went to intercept a Hammer on the wing near the corner flag and in a dangerous position for a cross, he closed the
player down but whe a West Ham
player arrived behind him and an Arsenal
player was closing from his right he dropped
back to cover the pass to the 2nd West Ham
player instead of trying to
win the
ball.
Liverpool took the game to us, we sat too deep and didn't press the Liverpool
players hard enough to
win the
ball back in the first half.
It is no cioncidences that we are having clean sheets when our offensive
players are fighting hard to
win back the
ball when they lose it in offensive positions.
Ozil isn't the type of
player who try to
win back a lost
ball.
as for me ozil is a talented and skilful
player but having only that is not enough to
win the ever getting stronger premier leage teams, he has to train hard for endurance and be a fighter, he has to come
back and press on the opponent defense and even midfieldes to disposes the
ball when arsenal loose the
ball and go
back fast attacking like iwobi and welbeck are doing.
They did not only
win but passed the
ball well, attacked well and defended resolutely with
players that would have been on the bench but for injuries and suspension of Kolshieny So Ozil could track
back and defend with a sliding tackle?
Coquelin has done the type of job Xhaka could benefit from playing next to in pre season, nippy tackling
player to
win the
ball back and to release it to either a wingback or Xhaka to drive the game forward.
Pace only part of his problem... though a big one... his distribution of
ball out if defence is awful... one of worst in EPL... slows down our forward movement massively and often puts receiving
player in akward situation wher only option is
back pass... He is also average in air... So his one quality is positional sense so he is alright as a bench
player which is how Germany use him... So yes the guy is right we will not
win league with this mertesaker starting
There are too many
players in the squad that believe that they have no responsibility to defend and
win the
ball back.
We don't need a b2b
player as we have Ramsey Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere, Ox but it may be a decent compromise if he is very good at tackling,
winning back balls, playing across the field, linking defense to offense etc
Our
players are to weak in
winning the
ball back that we are forced to play this way.
Most of our
players are not hungry to make tackles and
win the
ball back.
If Ramsey AND Ozil are both more focused on being in the right place for when someone else
wins the
ball back then we have to central
players who are not defending, leaving more for Xhaka who isn't the most agile of
players.
At least Peps teams have always been very entertaining, pressing high and
winning ball back ASAP, high tempo with top
players in the mix to add the flair.
Our unbeaten year, we had
players who did not pass the
ball around waiting for an opening, they sat
back a bit more and hit them fast and hard when we
won the
ball back, meanwhile the opposition has gaps which pace and skill exploited.
A lot of their midfield
players are very similar, very technically gifted
players but Khedira will
win the
ball back to allow others to go and play.
We already have too many offensive
players who aren't willing to defend, track
back and
win the
ball back.
gibbs played well and deserves a higher rating so does holding apart his mistake that cost us a goal also i'm delighted for perez i've noticed on a technical level he is not what you would called a typical arsenal
player his first touch & control are not the best he tends to lose a
ball a bit too much and needs at least 2 touches i could be wrong and may be it is because he is just
back from injury or he was a bit nervous on his return, i know people will say that it doesn't really matter as long as he scores the reason why we bought him and they could be wright anyway great
win, performance and topping the group great, COYG!
When they loose the
ball all 10
players work hard at pressing and defending until they
win the
ball back.
Our attacking
players will have a big job of ensuring that they take the pressure off the defence by consistently exploiting Newcastle and
winning the
ball back in our attacking third.
You are only guaranteed that Sanchez and Coquelin will fight very hard to
win the
ball back EVERY game, you can't say the same about other
players.
The
players need to be told in no uncertain terms what they need to do — protect the
back 4 at all costs and when you
win the
ball pass it to Ozil / Sanchez and let them do the rest.
Having Wilshere sit behind, Mkhi partnering him and Ozil ahead means he has good
players to pass to if he
wins the
ball back.
I still don't understand people's obsession with boxing
players in to a specific role... The whole «true DM» is a dying breed, even Coquelin is arguably something else considering the advanced positions he takes up often in front of Santi and takes major risks in
winning the
ball back for us... IMO, the reason Coquelin has had such a successful integration into the first team is that he focussed incredibly hard on the basics of his role first and foremost before adding other elements to his game (long -
balls, driving runs into space, more aggressive
ball movement in general) it's not rocket science to tell a
player to curb the attacking side of their game and focus primarily on defence before attack... Nor is it that hard to see that playing in a midfield pairing with either Ramsey or Cazorla is going to be different as well.
anything but a
win will make 4th place an increasingly distant goal... to be honest we should be able to beat this lot woy has tightened them up but hardly turned them in to big hitters but i do nt think wenger can motivate the team anymore so its all about whether
players show up on the night... wilshere needs to get on the
ball more partnered with elneny who is probably the most reliable of a hapless riumvirate, kosalinac and debuchy given roles in a
back 4... if sanchez wants to showcase his skills i can see a 2 1 victory... otherwise could be looking at another embarassing loss... pathetic that we have fallen to this level of speculation
Part of the problem seems to be, we are mainly / only producing talents for attacking positions, but we are always in need of
players, who can defend and
win the
ball back.
how can a modern day manager canot get a
player which he pays millions to trot
back to defend or try to get
back and
win the
ball he lost, you all know who I mean (Ozil)
, Arsenal is not a charity, Arsenal is a football club trying to to
win EPL, not a charity trying to help a
player who is overated and useless, he got pay to play a football, not to operate patients and he got 75m a week to be able to pass the
ball correctly, never mind score or assist, I get 480 # / week if my confidence is low my boss will give me a kick at
back side to sort my self out or the door, we do not have to risk our chance of
winning the game for a sake of Ox, bench him, the best
player plays, we don't gonna miss is scoring ability or his assist, we will be less frustrated if he is on the bench typical English
player!
Powerful and explosive attack wise while
players like Perez, Sanchez and Welbeck will
win the
ball back for us when not in possesion Basically the five in midfield will defend together but when in attack Xhaka stays
back.
For a B2B
player he rarely
wins the
ball back
Vieira was a top B2B
player but he played with the
ball ahead of him which meant he could soak up any attack instantly and
win the
ball back in dangerous areas, with Gilberto sitting deep and we had a solid CM that played with the
ball ahead of them.
I fully understand we just lost one game and uts not the end of the world but am struggling to deal with is the consistent lack of mental toughness that are the hallmarks of all title
winning teams... we need to be proactive and stop been reactionary, simples... we had what is in all honesty a good couple of matches begining of the season WINNABLE games but we already fell short at the first hurdle now all the talk is about bouncing
back, whatever happened to eyes on the
ball straight from the off... a Westham side with a new manager, some new
players and a 16 year old making his debut beating Arsenal at home is just plain disgraceful and whatever happens next does not in any way mitigate against that.....
But, Muller offers so much more — he is willing to chase
back and
win the
ball off the opposition, whilst he also drifts out to the right flank and into the pockets of space created when either Ozil or Gotze break forward as the most advanced
player.
We need some midfielders that can be strong and battle for us!!!! al our midfield are forward thinking and there is such a big hole from them and the
back 4, It does not matter who we have playing at the
back we will always get attacked with goals against us with the style of midfielders we have, Let get some steel in the middle of the park, Lets bring in some
players that other teams feel fear playing against us, Look
back at our best teams and we have always had
players that will get
back and cover and can tackle and
win balls in the middle of the park, So many of our midfield now can, t even get
back never mind
win the
ball back when we need it, It is NOT about the price of
players it is all about buying
players that can balance a good strong team, At time we need to buy a
player who is not a star but is good at doing what we need him to do,
Well im not in a wonderland he has his failings as we all do and great teams find a way to
win good teams sit where we are 6 -5-4 but thats besides the point and it would be nice if your aunty had bolocks cause then we d be second but ive watched the games were an offensive team most the time although were terrible in the pissing rain but for the most part the game plans have worked weve created chances quality scoring chances one after the other problem is for me the finishing unless we sit
back with 9 man behind the
ball or ten when you push forward you will give up a goal if you lousy forwards fail to finish the set ups have been there this year but our strikers have failed to kill the games if we create quality chances and grab leads in the first 60 minutes like we have for the most part and in those games those games should of been killed even if we give a goal or two alongside the strategy but we failed to hit multiple should be goals we tried laca we'll see abou auba although hes a bit lazy so far but we'll see but we've lacked that quality in front goal a
player the chances have been there im looking at the failure of the strikers and maybe that is his fault but monreal has scored as many goals recently as our strikers and thats sad our defenders or a midfielder will score and our stikers cant tally one in th first 60 mins of a game alongside them then were tired for last 40 give them hope there still only down one and we rue our missed chances while they push thats where iv been frustrated with this season not the tactics but the finishing
He goes from being in possession of the
ball to having a heavy touch and now he is reaching out or sliding in to
win the
ball back he just lost (with his QUALITY dribbling into
players not around them) YES on very rare occasions he pulls off some flicks and one touch play but NOT constant enough.
His role is to
win the
ball back, give it to the more creative
players in the team..
Off topic anyone notice how ozil was used on the left wing last season and the first part of this season and he was under performing fans and pundits were all saying how wenger should build the team around ozil since that was his best position and he cost us 42m well since his return he has only played either cam or right wing (he said in a interview that those were his fav positions since he played them at real) taking the place of an in form cazorla and it all seems to work I think wenger has done this all on purpose because if u look at ozils overall performance after his injury its much better than before, he tackles,
wins the
ball back and covers more distance than anyone else wenger does this often using
players out of position for a while only to make their overall game better and mostly it works genius
Another random thought I had with B2B partnerships and how Cazorla has been, Ozil doesn't like to score compared to assisting... He has put his foot in a bit more often at the end of the season and he was fighting to
win the
ball back when he lost it, could Ozil become a B2B
player?
«The
players are so quick and when we lose the
ball we want to be aggressive and
win it
back quickly,» Rooney was quoted as saying on Fifa.com.
I don't think his job is to initiate attack, he's main job is to
win the
ball back and play a simple pass to our more offensive
players, and he is not bad in possession as d stat and u re suggest, and I don't see any tactical reason behind carzola being backward order than ramsey being injured, nobody initiate our attack better than ramsey and dats d work of a box to box midfielder and not the defensive midfielder.
However, the 29 - year - old made it clear that there has been a shift in tactics when the team looses possession with the
players under instructions to hunt down the opposition in packs in an attempt to
win back the
ball early — also known as «little furies».
Your inter Milan comeback clip, had me searching for other Arsenal comebacks it's been a while since we beat Chelsea so I wanted to relive our 5 - 3 comeback, the first two goals how can a shorter
player win an aerial
ball against a giant had to be a Big German Rhino, then Terry's goal and we have not been able to get a centre
back since?
It is the Wenger syndrome — no
players are coached and required to do the dirty work (
win the
ball back and protect the defense).