1 - The total net
radiative energy from the Sun to the Earth is approximately 239W / m ^ 2 (16W / m ^ 2 to the surface + 78W / m ^ 2 to the atmosphere) and the total net
radiative energy from the Earth to space is 239W / m ^ 2 (169W / m ^ 2 +30 W / m ^ 2 + 40W / m ^ 2).
This is my way of showing that Sun radiative energy is mostly in the «shortwave» visible and near - visible region (about 0.3 μ to 1μ) and that
radiative energy from the warmed Earth is mostly in the «longwave» infrared region (about 6μ to 20μ).
Would it have been so difficult to terminate the smaller atmospheric absorption arrow in the atmosphere itself and then have a separate set of arrows (both toward the surface and into space) showing
the radiative energy from the atmosphere?
Not exact matches
Using global climate models and NASA satellite observations of Earth's
energy budget
from the last 15 years, the study finds that a warming Earth is able to restore its temperature equilibrium through complex and seemingly paradoxical changes in the atmosphere and the way
radiative heat is transported.
Because black holes can not be observed directly, Schulze's team instead measured emissions
from oxygen ions [O III] around the black hole and accretion disk to determine the
radiative efficiency; i.e. how much
energy matter releases as it falls into the black hole.
An object too small to be an ordinary star because it can not produce enough
energy by fusion in its core to compensate for the
radiative energy it loses
from its surface.
That's far
from the worst flaw in his calculation, since his two biggest blunders are the neglect of the
radiative cooling due to sulfate aerosols (known to be a critical factor in the period in question) and his neglect of the many links in the chain of physical effects needed to translate a top of atmosphere
radiative imbalance to a change in net surface
energy flux imbalance.
Mission officials say the New Horizons navigation team discovered
radiative thermal
energy from the spacecraft's nuclear power source drove the probe slightly off course.
Surface
radiative energy budget plays an important role in the Arctic, which is covered by snow and ice: when the balance is positive, more solar radiation
from the Sun and the Earth's atmosphere arrives on the Earth's surface than is emitted
from it.
Combining these new images and photometry with ancilliary data
from the literature, we undertook simultaneous multi-wavelength modelling of the discs» radial profiles and spectral
energy distributions using three different methodologies: single annulus, modified black body, and a
radiative transfer code.
Referring back to 24 November 2005, raypierre describes the overall assumption of the
radiative process analysis that concludes with a surface temperature output, saying that the radiating temperature «has to stay the same, since the planet still has to get rid of the same amount of
energy absorbed
from incident sunlight.»
Concluding: not only
radiative process contribute to the transfer of
energy from the surface to outer space.
APE produced
from kinetic
energy may take the form of temperature variations that are farther
from radiative equilibrium, and thus may be destroyed by differential
radiative heating.
Starting
from an old equilbrium, a change in
radiative forcing results in a
radiative imbalance, which results in
energy accumulation or depletion, which causes a temperature response that approahes equilibrium when the remaining imbalance approaches zero — thus the equilibrium climatic response, in the global - time average (for a time period long enough to characterize the climatic state, including externally imposed cycles (day, year) and internal variability), causes an opposite change in
radiative fluxes (via Planck function)(plus convective fluxes, etc, where they occur) equal in magnitude to the sum of the (externally) imposed forcing plus any «forcings» caused by non-Planck feedbacks (in particular, climate - dependent changes in optical properties, + etc.).)
Yup, but by definition as we add greenhouse gasses, we depart
from equilibrium, so the processes do not cancel and there is a net flow of
energy from radiative to kinetic.
Certainly any increase in air temperature
from radiative forcings (apparently reasonably well modeled in the GCMs) is going to increase the temperature differential
from ground to space, which will increase the vertical air velocity (ie increased hurricane strength) and DECREASE the residence time of
energy in the air in the same manner that GHGs increase the residence time.
ie
energy can easily move
from conduction to
radiative transport & back again etc..
Increasing the concentration of
radiative gases in the atmosphere increases the speed of circulation in the Hadley, Ferrel and Polar convective cells, thereby increasing the strength of mechanical
energy transport away
from the surface and lower atmosphere.
The point isn't a «perpetual increase in atmospheric pressure» — that's a misnomer — if you consider the MASS of the atmosphere that is continuously «pumped»
from cold air to hot air to cold air again, high up in the atmosphere — that creates «potential
energy»
from the kinetic
energy of the convection — adiabatic expansion of the atmosphere is the result — the adiabatic compression occurs on the return trip of the previously warmed (
from radiative energy) air as it completes the «cycle» as it comes back down!
The fact is that
Radiative Heat Transfer accounts for only 19 % of the overall transfer of
energy from the surface to the atmosphere.
With funding
from the U.S. Department of
Energy, AER has developed the highly accurate and efficient
radiative transfer code RRTMG for application to global models.
RealOldOne2 states that the greenhouse effect is real — he states that the increase
radiative emission
from GHGs results in the surface emitting less
energy than it would if it were radiating straight to space as a result of sentient molecules.
«The IPCC has failed to convincingly explain the pause in terms of external
radiative forcing
from greenhouse gases...» — That's because the tropospheric pause has nothing to do with GH gases, which never «pause» in their action, bit rather, the pause has everything to do with natural variability in the rate of
energy flow
from ocean to atmosphere.
Hi, You state «The Earth and the atmosphere are warmer because of that [
radiative]
energy transfer» one - way
from the Earth to the atmosphere.
Their observed height and mixing ability is a result of
radiative characteristics supplementing the
energy they acquire
from the surface and that additional
energy being diffused through the whole atmosphere by collisional activity.
The
radiative absorption capability of CO2 allows atmospheric molecules to reach a higher temperature than that imparted to them by
energy at the surface so they rise to a higher location than would be predicted
from their weight and their individual gas constants.
That uplift causes all the additional
radiative energy to be converted
from kinetic
energy (which registers on sensors as heat) to potential
energy (which does not register on sensors as heat).
«The net
radiative energy flow will be
from the hotter to the colder, HOWEVER, the colder object also radiates.
The parameterization of the interactions are at all levels;
from estimation of the geometric characterization of the aerosols, to the numbers of particles, to connections with several important aspects of clouds, and finally to the interactions with
radiative energy transport.
However, the second law is not violated by the greenhouse effect, of course, since, during the
radiative exchange, in both directions the net
energy flows
from the warmth to the cold.»
There was some mention of
energy imbalance but I can not see how
energy imbalance can be calculated
from radiative forcing and heat uptake.
The
energy balance at the glacier surface shows that the greatest
energy available to melt ice comes
from the
radiative balance.
The exact balance of the
energy transferred
from the surface via
radiative and convective processes seems not to be accurately known (as far as I have read to date), but non-
radiative processes dominate.
The time span 1750 - 2000 is 2.5 times 1 century, therefore 0.63 x 2.5 = 1.575 Watts / sqm of more
energy received
from the Sun, rounded up makes 1.6 W / m ^ 2 of
Radiative Forcing (RF) as it is labelled now by the IPCC.
I took this
from wiki: he total solar irradiance (TSI) is the amount of solar
radiative energy incident on the Earth's upper atmosphere.
ii) The real question is whether changes in
radiative characteristics alone can result in
energy being transferred
from the
radiative SDL to the mechanical AAL so as to add to the
energy in that latterLoop and thereby significantly increase the temperature of atmosphere and surface by in turn increasing the time delay in the transmission of
energy through the system.
There is a small effect
from the
radiative properties of the «GHG's», but they simply act as a sort of hybrid thermal / optical delay line which delays the flow of any single photon through the Sun / Earth / Atmosphere / Universe system by causing it to make multiple «bounces» through the system: surface / GHG / surface / GHG / escape to the
energy free void of space.
The accumulation of
energy in the global ocean
from the second half of the C20th onwards is held by many to be unequivocal evidence that the climate system is in
radiative disequilibrium.
And in any event Alan, satellite measurements of the
radiative energy balance show that over the last 40 + years, the planet has acquired
energy, in just the quantity that separate measurements indicate and in the bandwidths one would expect
from CO2 - driven
radiative forcing.
We present new evidence
from a compilation of over two decades of accurate satellite data that the top - of - atmosphere (TOA) tropical
radiative energy budget is much more dynamic and variable than previously thought.
Heat
from the Sun is its thermal
energy on the move by
radiative transfer.
However there is no law that says
radiative transfers have to balance, in fact we know
from the law of conservation of
energy that this isn't the case: a solar panel has no
radiative equilibrium because the incoming radiation is converted into heat.
RE: sky says: (August 10, 2010 at 4:54 pm) «
From the macro perspective of geophysics, that question is largely mooted by the fact that radiative transfer does not operate as the sole means of thermal energy transfer from surface to space.&ra
From the macro perspective of geophysics, that question is largely mooted by the fact that
radiative transfer does not operate as the sole means of thermal
energy transfer
from surface to space.&ra
from surface to space.»
«Because the solar - thermal
energy balance of Earth [at the top of the atmosphere (TOA)-RSB- is maintained by
radiative processes only, and because all the global net advective
energy transports must equal zero, it follows that the global average surface temperature must be determined in full by the
radiative fluxes arising
from the patterns of temperature and absorption of radiation.»
Extra heat
from all sources — including the interior of the planet, fossil fuel burning, nuclear fission, solar radiance, north - south asymetry and — the big one — cloud
radiative forcing — is retained in planetary systems as longwave emissions and shortwave reflectance adjusts to balance the global
energy budget.
Greenhouse gases «trap»
radiative energy because they absorbed IR radiation
from the Earth's surface which then continually «bounces up and down».
The surface temperature response, T, to a given change in atmospheric CO2 is calculated
from an
energy balance equation for the surface, with heat removed either by a
radiative damping term or by diffusion into the deep ocean.
These include the vertical motions of clouds, all the
radiative -
energy - transport characterizations of the non-vaporous (gaseous) phases of water in the clouds, the vertical locations of the cloud tops, the distributions of the non-vaporous phases of water within the clouds, and all aspects of precipitation of liquid - and solid - phase water
from the clouds.
From the macro perspective of geophysics, that question is largely mooted by the fact that radiative transfer does not operate as the sole means of thermal energy transfer from surface to sp
From the macro perspective of geophysics, that question is largely mooted by the fact that
radiative transfer does not operate as the sole means of thermal
energy transfer
from surface to sp
from surface to space.
So
radiative transport is the reason the evolved isothermal atmosphere departs
from a equipartition of
energy distribution?