So within three hours is what's optimal, no later
than six hours and it's really sad to say that I have seen moms in the hospitals — I've worked at several area hospitals here in San Diego county and I'll walk into a
room and the mom will say, «I delivered
yesterday» and I'll look at the clock and it's 12 hours later and she doesn't even have a pump in her
room, I am just — my heart just sinks, having been a mom myself my heart sinks because I remember the engorgement that late pumping or expression brings on and it's really, it just my heart breaks for them.