Annan
said equilibrium climate sensitivity is unlikely to be higher than 4.5 °C - there are few if any mainstream climate scientists who would disagree with this.
Annan
said equilibrium climate sensitivity is unlikely to be higher than 4.5 °C — there are few if any mainstream climate scientists who would disagree with this.
Not exact matches
Specifically, the draft report
says that «
equilibrium climate sensitivity» (ECS)-- eventual warming induced by a doubling of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which takes hundreds of years to occur — is «extremely likely» to be above 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit), «likely» to be above 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.4 degrees Fahrenheit) and «very likely» to be below 6 degrees Celsius (10.8 Fahrenheit).
The Hansen et al study (2004) on target atmospheric CO2 and
climate sensitivity is quite clear on this topic:
equilibrium responses would double the GCM - based estimates, with very little to be
said about transient effects.
DDS 1: «The claim of reduced uncertainty for
equilibrium climate sensitivity is premature» This is what many
climate skeptics have been
saying for years and they have been called deniers for their efforts.
I estimate dT increased from 1980 to 2010 by about 0.4 K. Given
equilibrium climate sensitivity of 0.75 K / Wm2, the amount of forcing neutralised by
said dT is; 0.4 * 0.75 = 0.3 W / m2.
When I rephrased my question and gave some background to my reason for asking it, you went way outside your area of expertise and turned to stating your opinions (based on you ideological beliefs) about how much your tool
says the planet will warm by 2100 (4.4 C you
said based on 3.2 C
equilibrium climate sensitivity).
And that
says nothing about the fact that the
Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity is supposed to reflect the rise in temperature following an increase in atmospheric CO2, but what is estimated is the rise in temperature PRECEEDING an increase in atmospheric CO2.
The Lewis and Curry paper
said the best estimate for
equilibrium climate sensitivity — the change in global mean surface temperature at
equilibrium that is caused by a doubling of the atmospheric CO2 concentration — was 1.64 degrees.
The fact that the estimates based on the instrumental period tend to peak low has probably more to do with the fact that the
climate has not been in
equilibrium during that entire instrumental period and so therefore converting the
sensitivity computed into an
equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS), which is what is being discussed, requires some guesswork (and, dare I
say it — modelling).
Where did I ever
say I was using «
climate sensitivity» to refer to the
equilibrium concept?
However, Curry has no publications or expertise in this area, and once
said that the global
equilibrium climate sensitivity could fall anywhere between 0 and 10 °C for doubled CO2.
Junkink: What you've
said is not quite right for while a particular value of the
equilibrium climate sensitivity possesses a probability density, under the IPCC's model, it does not possess a probability.
Hector — I didn't quite
say «easily solved», but the Transient
Climate Response (TCR) can serve as a useful approximation to equilibrium climate sensitivity, and moreover, may be of greater practical use, since it predicts climate responses over the course of decades rather than those that might eventuate one thousand years
Climate Response (TCR) can serve as a useful approximation to
equilibrium climate sensitivity, and moreover, may be of greater practical use, since it predicts climate responses over the course of decades rather than those that might eventuate one thousand years
climate sensitivity, and moreover, may be of greater practical use, since it predicts
climate responses over the course of decades rather than those that might eventuate one thousand years
climate responses over the course of decades rather than those that might eventuate one thousand years later.
«From the corresponding paper: «our study
says nothing about the
equilibrium climate sensitivity; it only suggests that the
equilibrium greenhouse
sensitivity is zero.»
As you've
said, «Once you go way back in time, it's questionable whether the concept of
sensitivity really applies (it needs an
equilibrium climate to exist, for starters).»
Knutti and Hegerl in the November, 2008 Natural Geoscience paper, The
equilibrium sensitivity of the Earth's temperature to radiation changes,
says various observations favor a
climate sensitivity value of about 3 degrees C, with a likely range of about 2 — 4.5 degrees C per the following graphic whereas the current IPCC uncertainty is range is between 1.5 - 4.5 degrees C.
A footnote in the new AR5 SPM
says «16 No best estimate for
equilibrium climate sensitivity can now be given because of a lack of agreement on values across assessed lines of evidence and studies.»
That would raise temperature by dT where k * -LRB-(290 + dT) ^ 4 - 290 ^ 4) = 0.2 which gives dT ~ = +0.07 deg C. That's only reached at
equilibrium, and as Nick says, ««Equilibrium Climate S
equilibrium, and as Nick
says, ««
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Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity.