I am not bashing Mormons but I fee sorry for them that they can not enjoy the true freedom of salvation they are trying to buy
their salvation by good works you don't need to do that its a free gift
And so I received that gospel; the good news that I don't gain
my salvation by my good works, but by simply placing my faith in Jesus.
Not exact matches
The significance of the sacrifices was to see our sinfulness and turn our hearts back to God and that is made clear with the death of Christ.The animals though could not remove our sin that was only possible through Christ as God he could remove sin in the past present and future as he is outside of time and space not like us.So there sins in effect were covered
by Jesus as
well in the old testament as in the new
by Gods we just did nt see it.The example of abraham able enoch they all were righteous they were justified before God.Enoch walked with God and was no more that sounds like the rapture to me so the holy spirit was present in that age just like us.We see that God has always been at
work to bring life and to bring mankind to
salvation.
only reason y i say this is because of Santification, once we give our life to the Lord, we streight way (so to speak) begin the process of Santification, this is Christ making us like him, and this Is SUFFERING It does nt happen over night, but for the duration of our time here, as you have said, its sort of like sin being done unto us, and we are handleing it just like Christ did, (with Love) of coarse with the help of the Holy Spirit, This Does NOT feel
Good At ALL since our soulful flesh is Corrupt, (but our spirit is saved) This is were your trails and tribulation, your own desire, and All play apart, Now Moment
by Moment we choose
by our own will, And Jesus helps in these times, as he was tempeted, but without sin, The devil can do nothing but try and decieve the Christian into thinking that he has to
work for his
salvation as you have said, this thing here is about your Inheritance In Christ, Its gonna be some show nought broke christian in Heaven, because their trying to set of for themseleve trasure on earth, and their is going to be weeping and gnat of teeth, but it wont be, because of their going to Hell, It will be cause they miss out on what they could have had, and it is Devistation, cause they waste so much time, and they wont be able to attend the wedding, supper of the lamb, they wont be, getting the position over city, galacy, ectt... just check it out some of the points i have made, God Bless you!
In that statement we affirmed that the justification of sinners, which is not earned
by any
good works or merits of our own, leads us toward the fullness of
salvation that is promised in the final kingdom.
Man alone
works out his
salvation, and this
by faith and
good deeds.
If yes, does that mean we can preserve our
salvation by following some rules and doing
good works?
I specifically found your remarks that you could argue that Mormons are «just as orthodox as many» evangelical protestants,» specifically in regard to the role of
good works in
salvation» to be particularly interesting given a common description
by LDS critics that Mormons try to earn their
salvation.
The seven controverted areas taken up
by the declaration are 1) sin and human passivity in receiving justification; 2) interior renewal, that is, the way God not only declares persons justified but also makes them righteous, independent of human cooperation; 3) justification
by faith alone; 4) the justified person as sinner; 5) law and gospel; 6) the assurance of
salvation; and 7) the
good works of the justified person.
So I am a faithful person, I have been bornagain
by both water and faith, according to the Scriptures that is the requirement of
Salvation and I produce
Good works not to earn
salvation but as result of belief in Jesus and I do not believe in Sola Fide I do believe my
Salvation is an ongoing process, because should I turn away from Christ I do believe
salvation can be lost.
Following Bonhoeffer's exposition of the Sermon on the Mount, he gives an exposition of Matthew 9:35 - 10:42.39 Short vignettes are drawn of the harvest (the people are without a shepherd, without relief, deliverance, and forgiveness) for which one must pray for laborers; the call of the apostles (who are given power stronger than Satan's and are bound together only
by their choice and call); the
work (fulfilling their commission to preach, traveling as messengers of the King, living in «royal poverty,» warning men of the urgency of the times); the suffering of the messengers (as Jesus was persecuted so the messengers will be, but they are forewarned; because Christ will return the disciples are not to fear man, or to be gullible in thinking that «there is
good in every man «40); the decision (man's eternal destiny is determined
by his decision on earth for the devil or for Christ); and the fruit (the disciples are fellow workers having as their goal the «
salvation of the Church»).41
According to the statement, there is no consensus on justification through the word of God and «
by faith alone,» no consensus on the certitude of faith concerning our
salvation, no consensus on the continuing sinfulness of the justified, nor on the importance of
good works for our
salvation, nor on the function of the doctrine of justification as criterion of the entire life and doctrine of the church.
Jeremy have been asking the holy spirit for his help with this and in regards to the lame man that Jesus healed I do nt believe that sin was the issue for him just like the blind man was it his parents or did he sin the answer was neither but so that God would be glorified.What was the sin that may have been worse for him.The two situations are related of the woman caught in adultery the key words being go and sin no more only two references in the bible and will explain later the lame man we see at first his dependency on everyone else for his needs he cant do it he is in the
best position to receive Gods grace but what does he do with it.Does he follow Jesus no we are told he goes to the temple and Jesus finds him now that he has his strength to do things on his own what his response to follow the way of the pharisees that is what is worse than his condition before so he is warned
by go and sin no more.We get confused because we see the word sin but the giver of is speaking to him to go another way means death.Getting back to the two situations of the woman caught in adultery and the lame man here we see a picture of our hearts on the one our love for sin and on the other the desire to
work out our
salvation on our terms they are the two areas we have to submit to God.My experience was the self righteousness was the harder to deal with because it is linked in to our feelings of self worth and self confidence so we have to be broken so we are humble enough to realise that without God we can do nothing our flesh hates that so it is a struggle at first to change our way of thinking.brentnz
The RCC believes strongly in the concept of solipsistically earned Sanctifying Grace, necessary to
salvation and earned
by good works and adherence to the commandments.
It is moralistic in that it encourages the psychological equivalent of
works - righteousness approaches to
salvation — that is, it encourages the attempt to pull oneself up
by one's own rational bootstraps rather than opening oneself to the healing - growth resources in
good relationships.
I do not believe the Bible teaches
salvation by works (judgement based on the number of
good deeds and laws broken).
The reason for this is because
salvation is not based on
good works but
by grace through faith in Jesus and Jesus said» I am the way the truth and the life and no one can come to the Father but through Me».
All I was saying is that the Bible is clear that
salvation does not come
by performing
good works.
It's the
good news that God has declared sinners righteous solely on the basis of the
work of Christ, a declaration that sinners receive
by resting on Christ alone for
salvation.
A scholar whose
work I admire contributed an eloquent expostulation invoking the Holy Innocents, praising our glorious privilege (not shared
by the angels) of bearing scars like those of Christ, and advancing the venerable homiletic conceit that our
salvation from sin will result in a greater
good than could have evolved from an innocence untouched
by death.
As
well as sharing in God's
work of creating people, husbands and wives also have a share in God's
work of bringing them to
salvation, bringing them into union with Christ in the Church
by getting them baptised, bringing them to be fed
by Christ in the Eucharist and to be cared for
by him in the other sacraments; bringing them to know and love God through teaching, prayer, bible reading and example.
He preached
salvation by faith and denounced monastic vows, clerical celibacy, the invocation of the saints, belief in purgatory, the sacrificial character of the mass, and the teaching that
salvation can be won
by good works.
Third, such service of God is being undertaken as a
good work by which one hopes to obtain God's grace and
salvation.
Christianity teaches
salvation by grace (God's undeserved and unearned gift); whereas religion is based on
good works.
At what point does the desire to do
good cross the line into
salvation by works?
Those who call
salvation by faith «easy believism» miss the fact that true conversion will always result in sanctification and a life of
good works.
But the next verse tells of the results of that
salvation: â $ œFor we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto
good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.â $ Rather than being saved
by some easy act of our own wills, we are saved
by the hand of God Almighty,
by His will and for His use.
We are His servants, and from the moment of
salvation by faith, we embark on a journey of pre-ordained
good works that are the evidence of that
salvation.
If you could get in heaven because of your
good deeds, why would JESUS had to have gone to the cross, you will not go to hell because you sinned, the bible says we all have sinned, you will go for rejecting GODS free gift, his son, JESUS, SEE, HE TOOK YOUR PLACE IF YOU EXCEPT HIS OFFER BUT IF NOT YOU PAY FOR ALL YOUR SINS, KIND OF LIKE COURT,
BETTER TO TAKE AN ATTORNEY THAN REPRESENT YOURSELF, sorry for caps, GOD loved you so much he sent his son to die for you as payment for sin, you will answer to GOD for everything you do, JESUS lived a perfect life which was accepted
by GOD for payment of sins, thats up to you if you except it, is bible vs man made religions, thats alot of commeon since, there are man made laws you go
by or suffer for, plus, there are so many religions you can make one up to
best suit you, it do nt
work that way, plus, excepting JESUS is the
best way to heaven, why would you think you caould live perfect your whole life, you cant, the devil will use religion to lead as many people away from CHRIST as he can, even in the garden, eve was decieved.if the bible is not true than no man has anyright to even say whats right or wrong, things some people do they think is fine and so on, is stealing your car wrong, why, who said, and why are they right, think about it,
salvation is simple, man makes it hard, other religions say you have to earn it, fine, if they live that
good, they should except JESUS, why not except him, my way is through JESUS, if thats wrong, what have i lost, other ways are thru something or anything else, what if they are wrong, high price to pay for opinion, what if your son took someoneles punishment, and it cost him his life, how would you feel, think about GODS feelings, you cant take a few verses from man religion and get anywhere, read the bible, if you believe theres a GOD in heaven, please do nt reject his son, all very
good questions, thanks, i do nt want to be a problem, i just want you to be in heaven someday, i cant be
good enough to there there on my own, so i looked to the perfect one, JESUS, you do nt
worked to get saved, you
work because you are savd.you get get back out in sin and backslide, but, if your really saved, the LORD lives inside you, it will bother you to do certain things, but you can get numb to it, plus, the bible says, you are not your own, you were bought with a price, JESUS BLOOD, free to you but cost him his life, GOD will chastise for repeated sin, you are his child, just like with your children, spend some time alone with GOD, ask him to show you, would love to talk to you guys over phone, i cant type, you can tell, theres so much more i can say please call me [PHONE NUMBER REMOVED] or email is [EMAILREMOVED]