Tertullian's reaction is to unambiguously affirm the otherness of what is offered by the «heretics», and argue that they do not have the same God, the same Christ, or even
the same baptism.
In verse 13 Paul says by the same Spirit (that is manifested to men as he described in the previous verses) Jews and Gentiles, bond or free are all baptized with
the same baptism and receive the same manifestation of the Spirit as well.
Not exact matches
By offering these people
baptism by proxy, everyone who has ever lived gets the
same opportunity.
In our churches and temples we practice all of the
same ordinances that Jesus Christ practiced on the earth including
baptism, sacrament, and others.
Having shared the great grace of
baptism and having been appropriately catechized into «the mysteries,» evangelical Catholics understand, appreciate, and live the biblical truth of Christian vocation as given by St. Paul: «Now there are varieties of gifts, but the
same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the
same Lord; and there are varieties of working, but it is the
same God who inspires them all in every one.
Another, whom we calculate as present in the second sense, may so calculate such presence that Jesus»
baptism is for him now present in the
same sense.
Why won't they all share to the
same extent in Jesus» fate («cup») and special vocation («
baptism»)?
Part of Israel's call was to be a light of who Yahweh is so that the nations around could come to faith, through faith, by the Passover blood and then the sign of circumcision, which for us I believe plays the
same role as
baptism.
My attitude is the
same that I have towards
baptism an communion.
The sheer unpredictability of city encounters makes it impossible to presume, as many churches do, that God's grace must be sequential — measured out at regular intervals in
baptism, confirmation, communion, marriage, burial — and will happen to everyone at the prescribed time, in the
same way.»
Baptism, grounded in the Easter event, starts the Christian life, and the
same paschal joy echoes even in the service of Christian burial.
It is only that our body remains the
same even after
baptism.
On the other hand, Mormons complain about Christians saying Mormons are not Christian, and many of the
same people who wring their hands over proxy
baptism call for Christians to accept Mormons as their own.
The
same applies to adult
baptism.
In
baptism we are invited to wade into the
same waters that swept away our ancestors in Noah's time, because Jesus has gone before us and calls out, «Come on in, the water's fine!
If you read the recent articles on the Mormons»
baptism of those already deceased, you would be surprised that the language of their ritual is substantively the
same as for protestants.
If they are true believers and not riding some particular hobby horse they must surely say that everything has remained the
same that is really necessary for life as well as for death: the crucified and risen Christ, his grace,
baptism, the true body and blood of the Lord in the Eucharist, the forgiveness of sins, the expectation of eternal life, the ancient dogma binding on all, the one commandment of the love of God and our neighbour.
At the
same time we do not have the spiritual authority to go out on our own and command God to bless us because we practice or perform communion,
baptism and marriage ceremonies.
I think St. Peter would not put Gentile
baptism and gay marriage in the
same context.
Or has the record of his
baptism gone to the
same place as his college transcripts from Occidental and Columbia?
Its appearance with the voice proclaiming Jesus as the divine Son associates it with the Holy Spirit, who appears in the form of a dove with the
same voice at Jesus»
baptism.
Finally, the Proclamation led up to an appeal to the hearers to give their personal assent to the «Good News»; to implement it by turning in repentance and trust to God, who by His «mighty works» had made a new people for Himself; and to signify the
same by
baptism into the fellowship of the Church, thereby accepting God's forgiveness and entering into new relations with Him.
Craig both seventh day and anglican are believers they are saved by faith in the death of Jesus Christ and they believe in the forgiveness of sins sactification and the resurection at Christs return.This is what i meant regarding theology one has to be careful otherwise you exclude groups of christians because some of there other theology may not be the
same as ours.They still hold to the central truths of the bible but have differences ie like sabbaths or
baptism but that does not mean they arent saved or are christians.What church denomination do you belong to if you mentioned jehovah witness or mormons that is a different story as they do nt believe that Jesus Christ is central to there faith they have relegated him to nothing more than a prophet so there is no salvation in those religions.brentnz
Paul indicates that by
baptism, all participate in the one body with «no sense of division in the body, but that all its organs might feel the
same concern for one another.
All churches have one Lord, one faith, one
baptism, all have the
same Great Commission, and the
same calling to minister «unto the least» (or THE church, if you prefer that).
The Lutheran understanding of the Christian as «at the
same time righteous and sinner» is set forth, as is the Catholic view that «all that is sin «in the proper sense»» is taken away in
baptism, though «an inclination (concupiscence)» toward sin remains.
But the
baptism is no magical performance, for it promises escape only to the seriously repentant; at the
same time it is no merely symbolical act in the modern sense; it is rather a «sign» in the antique meaning of the word, which guarantees the mysterious union of the symbolical act, now occurring, with the future event which the symbolical act prophesies.
There are others, some among United Methodists, who contend that a person who has sinned away the benefits of his or her
baptism and who has come to repentance and received the grace of Christ to live a new life should signify the
same in an act of rebaptism.
The adoptionist view is also usually ascribed to Mark, whose Gospel begins with an account of Jesus»
baptism, the coming of the Spirit upon him, and this
same pronouncement of approval, although I believe there are good grounds for questioning that conclusion.
In the
same maner I would think a bit longer before diminishing the rol of pastoral ministries not to mention the commandment of
baptism and the most beautiful practice of remember Christ sacrifice through communion.
If parents present their children for
baptism because it is a family ritual, the
same parents probably will want their children to formally join the church because it is a family tradition.
And yet, these
same three reasons to continue water
baptism today are also three reasons why water
baptism should cease.
With the exception of adult converts, the attitudes of adults about church membership are often the
same as the level of commitment expected of them when they confirmed their
baptism.
The
same is true of
baptism.
All of them, both the women and the men, receive empowerment through the
same gift of God's Spirit that had descended upon Jesus at his
baptism.
In Mormon doctrine,
baptisms for the dead (as mentioned in the Bible itself) allows for every person to have the
same opportunities in the afterlife, according to their own agency and choice; it demonstrates the perfect mercy of a perfect Father for every one of his children.
As we die and resurrect at the
same moment, we don't perceive
baptism as a kind of death (actually our life as sinners gets abolished).
Indiscriminate infant
baptism is irresponsible and turns infant
baptism into an act which can hardly be understood to be essentially the
same as adult believers»
baptism.»
These two major theological contributions, one from almost thirty years ago, and the other from almost twenty years ago, indicate that concerned theologians have been wrestling with the issues of
baptism conversion, and mission, without loosing track of what had happened in the past, while at the
same time trying to discern what was happening in their immediate context.
I don't buy your stretch saying that they are all, «a bond with God and the Holy Spirit of the kind that we find through
baptism, communion, and marriage,» and even if I did, you would need to support that marriage falls under that
same category as
baptism instead of just telling us it does.
To simply ram - rod
Baptism and Marriage in as simple religious ceremony and consider them both falling under the
same principles is simply to lack any real knowledge about either of them.
Now a cloud overshadowed the awestruck disciples, and a voice spoke almost the
same words that were spoken by the heavenly voice at Jesus»
baptism.
If not, is there some other symbolic ritual that might accomplish the
same purpose as
baptism, but which is more universally recognized?
Third, one can not pass by means of Christ to salvation except in uniting oneself — at least in an invisible manner — to the church, which is at the
same time visible and invisible, and in having a real, positive relation to
baptism (and also, according to St. Thomas Aquinas, to the Eucharist).
I did tell our church leader off for wearing the
same clothes every Sunday, but that was because they didn't even suit him and once he wore some really tight shorts to do a full - submersion
baptism and his family were so embarassed that he had to promise never to wear them again!
Nevertheless, to be a Christian is to believe that the truth found in the Bible is the very
same truth we enter into by way of
baptism, the
same truth we confess in our creeds, the
same truth we receive in the bread and wine of the Eucharist.
It's the
same thing, we believe that you must «make covenants» such as
baptism and abstaining from certain things as Jesus taught.
Most Protestant communions do not hold it to be a sacrament in the
same sense that
baptism and the Lord's Supper are, yet it is a sacred act.
So we can also contemplate this
same unfolding and unified purpose of Christ in our own lives, from our conception as a simple cell, ensouled by God in accordance with the Unity Law, to
Baptism and entry into Christ in the Eucharist, through the years of growing up and formation in holiness and the spiritual life — maybe through failure and re-conversion.