I believe that by looking at what the authors of Scripture
say about Scripture, we can arrive a much better position — one where we maintain the accuracy and authority of Scripture, but in such a way that Scripture is not set up as a sacred idol.
Have you ever had someone discredit what
you say about Scripture because you don't have as much education as they do?
If I was going to be perfectly honest with myself and with God — I needed to examine all the evidence out there and take an honest look at what was being
said about these scriptures and about the gay community in general.
I believe with all my heart that we all have listened to a preacher or professor and based our opionions / teachings on what «man»
says about scripture... and we forget about prayer.
Not exact matches
You
said Scriptures are hard to come by that speak
about Jesus dying for our sins.
I would offer this
scripture to you, though last time I told
about giving a
scripture to someone — well, let's just
say some folks don't like
scripture being given out.
Reality, This is precisely what
Scripture reveals
about Jesus: «He is the image of the invisible God, the first - born of all creation» (Colossians 1:15)... which fits nicely with what you
said the Saint Ignatius of Antioch
said, the bishop is typos tou Patros: he is like the living image of God the Father».
I think Christians, in general, don't know jack squat
about the gay lifestyle / community nor do they really take the time to understand... their
scripture says this and that's all they need (blatant ignorance — but that's life)... even those
scriptures are up for contention as noted earlier by Trey.
Ms. Zacharias shows very little intelligence or insight when it comes to what the
Scriptures say about God.
Regardless of what I believe
Scripture says or does not
say about this or that act being or not being a sin, I do not want a theology that leads Jesus to be the one portrayed in the cartoon.
Even my literalist friends will
say about different
scriptures «Oh, well, we know not to take that literally».
Although
Scripture says little
about them, it is a safe assumption that they were also interested in Jesus» politics.
Angela Shupe writes a column for RELEVANT
about reading
Scripture and finding our self - esteem in who God wants us to be instead of who society
says we ought to be.
What I'm actually
saying is that I think God is so much bigger and more incomprehensible than what we read
about Him in
Scripture.
And where in
scripture does it
say anything
about who is «allowed» to read the Gospels?
Replace them with the promises of God instead by returning to
Scripture to read what God has to
say about your future and your security in Him.
In fact, Jesus had more to
say about the the dangers of greed, love of possessions, and the lack of compassion for the the «poor» and the «least of these» than he did
about any other single subject in christian
scripture.
She
says nothing of the
Scriptures» teachings elsewhere
about homosexuality, for instance.
There is a
scripture in the new testament that
says «God is the same yesterday, today, and forever» Mormons do nt spread lies
about other churchs they
say is you want to know if the church is true the only person you should ask is God himself and he will answer that question for you...
It's up to us, the regular, everyday people in the trenches of real life to speak the truth and tell our stories
about the work God's doing in our lives and what He's
saying to us through the
Scriptures.
I was at a church retreat where one guy suddenly
said in response to my asking a legitimate question
about how they were interpreting
scripture that Satan was in me and got the whole group to pray that Satan leave.
When speaking this way
about Scripture, most theologians are
about to
say that as a result of the Bible being a human book, it should not surprise us to discover that the Bible has errors.
I would
say to any person commenting on your 10 Ways the Non-Violent Atonement Changes Your Theology blog, to read your book first (its not an expensive purchase) before launching into any detailed discussion or disagreement.It answers many of the potential concerns people have and gets the reader to reflect very strongly on what they have been taught
about the atonement and to put on a new set of glasses when reading
scripture.
In this way, we can
say that the Hebrew
Scriptures are more of a revelation
about man than a revelation
about God.
Yet, if another believes another way, yet he goes home and treats his wife with love, what does that
say about his belief in
scripture?
I don't think simply
saying a prayer and going
about your life the way you used to does it, and it's because of the
scriptures I listed above.
«Of course it is possible for Christians to sin and even commit serious ones» What
about your
scripture that
says «whoever is born of god does not continue to sin»?
But this seems to go against much of what
Scripture says about «testing the spirits» (1 John 4:1), and ignores warnings
about how false prophets come in sheep's clothing (Matt 7:15).
Many of us knew that the
Scriptures had a lot to
say about the Creation, but we began to realize that some of the key things were central texts of evangelical Christianity.»
As I
said last week, this general guide for interpreting and applying the Bible makes sense to me.It's not
about discounting the historical / grammatical method in favor of forcing a Jesus message into every last page, but simply looking at
Scripture through the lens of the gospel of Jesus Christ just as Christians should look at everything through the lens of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
They want to «stack the deck» in such a way that if you accept what they
say about the accuracy, authority, and credibility of
Scripture, then you will most likely also accept their interpretation and understanding of
Scripture (what the witness
says), if you do this, then you will also buy into the rest of their theological system that they were trying to prove in the first place.
You didn't learn anything «from Jesus» as He
said nothing
about what you call
scripture because it didn't exist (NT) yet.
Somehow the parts of
Scripture that really do have something to
say about how we use our resources pretty much get bypassed because most of our available resources are consumed by the property - staff - programs triad.
The
scripture people want to misquote
about not being tempted with more than you can bear in 1 Corinthians doesn't
say that at all in my study of it.
We will look tomorrow at the popular Jewish method of studying
Scripture and what Jesus had to
say about it.
Wonderful teacher... get out your Bible and start reading... this guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing leading millions to an eternity in hell... the prosperity gospel he teaches is contrary to the teachings of Christ... Christ talked
about abundance in life but he was speaking of spiritual abundance not material things...
Scripture and Christ
said in this life you will have trouble... Christ suffered in this life as did each of his Apostles... open your eyes before it is too late for you.
Concerning the «Eternal, conscious torment in hell», take what the Bible actually
says about hell and its duration» and if you do not believe some of the things that some people think is unscriptural and can not find it
Scripture just ignore it.
Since all
scripture is given by inspiration of God, why would you not look at the entirety of
scripture on a given subject instead of what did Jesus
say about it?
With all their laudable effort to understand the integrity of the
Scriptures, both Old and New, and to insist on the basic unity of the Bible; with all their recognition of the place of Jesus within the setting of Jewish piety and religious thought, these scholars sometimes fail to see that the very truth
about God which the Bible as a whole affirms, and above all that which the New Testament
says about Jesus himself, can be smothered by sheer biblicism and thereby made meaningless for those to whom the gospel should be a living, vitalizing, and contemporary message.
He demonstrates that
Scripture, (including Ecclesiastes, the Song of Songs, Proverbs, Hosea, and the gospel accounts of Jesus» friendships, for example) has much to
say about play.
As to what the
Scriptures have to
say about homosexual orientation, my brother, you not only have to do deeper research, but most importantly approach
Scripture in the Spirit of Love, as a child who knows nothing, seeking the guidance of his Father.
He
says this was
about «not reading
scripture purely to reinforce my theology, but engaging to encounter the person of God in
scripture».
Peter's joyful reaction to the unexpected faith of Cornelius best describes my reaction to what
Scripture says about the unevangelized: «I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him.»
We will talk more
about predetermination and foreordination in the future posts
about Unconditional Election and the Sovereignty of God, so I don't want to use a lot of room to discuss these issues here, except to
say that
Scripture, reason, and experience all seem to point pretty clearly to the fact that God expects us to make wise choices and holds us accountable for the choices and decisions we make.
What do our selective readings
say about ourselves and what we want to read into
Scripture?
There is a difference between what the
Scripture really
says about God, and what we think the
Scripture says about God.
For if
Scripture says little
about God's being or essence, it is constantly revealing his action and presence.
The truth is, how we «pick and choose» from
Scripture often
says as much
about us as it
says about the Bible.
And the gay community makes it almost impossible for anyone who believes they are gay to accept what
scripture says about their sexual behavior.
Since
Scripture never speaks explicitly of the Trinity, the thinking went, Christians should not presume to be able to
say too much
about it.