I believe Richard explains it best when
he says Agnosticism is watered down atheism.
Peter Gomes
says agnosticism is healthier than certainty in some cases.
That's why
I say agnosticism is the best approach when it comes to deities.
Not exact matches
You
said, «Seems that atheism is rooted in rebellion and pride, but at least it is a stand, unlike
agnosticism, which is rooted in ignorance and laziness.»
Unfortunately if you are strictly
saying atheist, then you need to include Buddhism,
agnosticism, Taoism and plenty of others in the number, because they are technically atheists because they do not believe in god / gods.
(Atheism is a claim to know that God does not exist, whereas
agnosticism says that we don't or can't know whether there is a God.)
I get your point John, I was
saying is» Within
agnosticism there are agnostic atheists (who do not believe any deity exists, but do not deny it as a possibility)»
Basit Koshul, a Sunni Muslim who teaches at Concordia College in Moorhead, Minnesota,
says, «Past experience taught me that most interfaith forums were basically «interfaith-less» forums where agnostic Muslims, Christians and Jews met to confirm each other's
agnosticism.»
They gave up so much, they suffered so much, they endured the searing
agnosticism and cynicism of the Greek mind, always looking for just that sort of thing to
say... they also endured the searching, probing minds of the Jewish Pharisees, seeking with desperation to stop this «new heresy» form spreading.
We concede that not all who doubt the existence of a personal God do so because they accept the theory of evolution, whether the word be restricted to biology or enlarged to its cosmic significance, but we do
say, and from experience know, that most modern
agnosticism is bound up with those non-theistic philosophies of evolution that stream off from Hegel as their modern fountain - head.
Besides if it was a progression, who is to
say that
agnosticism wasn't the pinnacle?
Actually you missed the OP's point: he didn't
say atheism and
agnosticism are the same thing.
Let me
say first that, as contrasted with a know - it - all dogmatism,
agnosticism can be a very healthy attitude.
Regarding comments comparing atheism vs.
agnosticism vs. theism I
say this: EVERYBODY is agnostic (the existance of a deity is unknown, being neither provable nor unprovable).
His point was not to
say that you must choose Christianity or Empirical Humanism — rather that people should choose to believe in something: either a traditional religion that puts upon you a set of expectations to meet or a rejection of divinity that gives you a form of Atheism /
Agnosticism that holds to reason as a higher truth.
Origen, in responding to Celsus,
said that while Plato's statement was «noble and impressive,» it rested on philosophical
agnosticism.
This
said,
agnosticism is fully compatible with both theism and atheism.
Personally, I think the only truly honest position is «I don't know for sure, and I
say so» -
agnosticism.
My immediate colleagues had carefully thought their
agnosticism through, which was more than I could
say of my faith.
You
said, «This is actually a very important verse for me, because it is what converted me from
agnosticism to Christ.»
Reuters: Pope
says Catholic Church must stand firm against «intolerant
agnosticism» Pope Benedict
said on Sunday that Roman Catholic leaders must have the courage to stand up to attacks by «intolerant
agnosticism» prevalent in many countries.
You
said, «
Agnosticism is, as you
say, the lack of knowledge one way or the other, but atheism is a very definitive stance.
Whitehead's son North, however, once
said to me that there was something a little odd about his father's
agnosticism.