(When reading the WUWT article, remember that a statistically -
significant warming trend does not necessarily mean that it is a climate - significant trend.)
The lack of a statistically significant warming trend in GMST does not mean that the planet isn't warming, firstly because GMST doesn't include the warming of the oceans (see many posts on ocean heat content) and secondly because a lack of a statistically significant warming trend doesn't mean that it isn't warming, just that it isn't warming at a sufficiently high rate to rule out the possibility of there being no warming over that period.
Not exact matches
It also doesn't help when you can go to climate4you.com and see a 350 year chart from central England showing a long slight
warming trend, with no
significant deviations, over the time span.
Because the long - term
warming trends are highly
significant relative to our estimates of the magnitude of natural variability, the current decadal period of stable global mean temperature
does nothing to alter a fundamental conclusion from the AR4:
warming has unequivocally been observed and documented.
A single
warm month in climate terms
does not a
significant trend make.
Now if someone were to dsay, as Judith clearly
did not although she had many opportunities to
do so, that «concurrent with
warming of our oceans there has been a relatively short - term hiatus in the
trend of
significant increase in global surface temperatures,» then I would not have a problem with the logic.
Marcott paper Basically the folks at RC have probably made poor ol Marcott respond that the uptick
did not matter anyway its not important,
significant, robust etc don't rely on it just forget about it please etc but unfortunately for them as Ross MC on Realclimate reply, at CA says «But that is precisely what they
do in Figure 3 of their paper, and it is the basis of their claim that «Global temperature, therefore, has risen from near the coldest to the
warmest levels of the Holocene within the past century, reversing the long - term cooling
trend that began ~ 5000 yr B.P.» Without the uptick in their proxy reconstruction this kind of statement could never have been made.
... incomplete and misleading because it 1) omits any mention of several of the most important aspects of the potential relationships between hurricanes and global
warming, including rainfall, sea level, and storm surge; 2) leaves the impression that there is no
significant connection between recent climate change caused by human activities and hurricane characteristics and impacts; and 3)
does not take full account of the significance of recently identified
trends and variations in tropical storms in causing impacts as compared to increasing societal vulnerability.
So if Eric could somehow justify
doing so, our West Antarctic
trend would increase from 0.10 Deg C / decade to 0.16 Deg C / decade, and the area of statistically
significant trends would grow to cover the WAIS divide, yielding statistically
significant warming over 56 % (instead of 33 %) of West Antarctica.
Based on previously reported analysis of the observations and modelling studies this is neither inconsistent with a
warming planet nor unexpected; and computation of global temperature
trends over longer periods
does exhibit statistically
significant warming.
I'm very convinced that the physical process of global
warming is continuing, which appears as a statistically
significant increase of the global surface and tropospheric temperature anomaly over a time scale of about 20 years and longer and also as
trends in other climate variables (e.g., global ocean heat content increase, Arctic and Antarctic ice decrease, mountain glacier decrease on average and others), and I don't see any scientific evidence according to which this
trend has been broken, recently.
Werner Brozek: What you are missing is the fact that just because the
trend since a certain time is not statistically -
significant does not mean that global
warming has stopped at that time, particularly when the difference of the
trend from the longer term
trend is not statistically -
significant either.
There is nothing more that needs to be said about this graph, except to have a good laugh at those who claim it
does not show a
significant warming trend.
For this article, a statistically -
significant global
warming means that the linear
trend (slope of the
trend line) is likely greater than zero with 95 % statistical confidence (i.e. the 95 % error bars
do not include a possible 0.0 or negative temperature degree slope).
Regardless of what references can be given to other sources, the data is right there now and
does indeed show a statistically
significant warming trend over that period.
You can not justify cherry - picking 1998 as the «start date of a 15 - year
trend showing imperceptible
warming» (as Met Office
did) versus cherry - picking the most recent 10 - year period starting in 2002, which shows a statistically
significant (if shorter) cooling
trend.
If you
do it right, which is to look at enough data so you have a chance to observe a
significant long - term
trend, then you always detect a
significant warming trend.»
I'm alternately told by «skeptics» (1) it's regional impact that's important, (2) it's global data that's more important, (3) there is no such thing as «global temperatures,» (4) «skeptics» are not monolithic, (5) «skeptics» don't doubt that global temperatures are
warming (and that it is to some extent influenced by AC02), or alternately «we dismiss non-Global data), (6) all methodologyies used to determine global temps are unreliable, (7) global
warming has stopped, (8) we're experiencing global cooling, (9) what matters is long term
trends, (10) short - term
trends are
significant, (11) what's happening in Arctic isn't important (because it's regional), (12) what's happening in the Antarctic is important (despite it being regional).
In the report, the panel emphasized that the
significant remaining uncertainties about climate patterns over the last 2,000 years
did not weaken the scientific case that the current
warming trend was caused mainly by people, through the buildup of heat - trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
... short time scales... preclude determination of a statistically
significant trend at the 95 % confidence level, although lack of statistical signficance
does not negate the existence of [
warming] as defined here.
I
do think, however, that it is
significant (short term, not a firm
trend) that CO2, as measured at MLO, has been increasing at a smaller rate than in previous years despite the fact that overall anthropogenic CO2 output is not decreasing and, furthermore, that the short term
trend of the absolute increase is also down which indicates a greater rate of absorption of CO2 than in previous years — which to me would indicate an ongoing cooling of the oceans as per the theory that a cooling ocean absorbs more CO2 while a
warming ocean releases more CO2.
How can anyone think that these
warming and cooling
trends are caused by CO2 emissions when CO2 emissions didn't become
significant until the post WWII industrialisation era?
Jan Perliwtz wrote I
do not have any problems at all with efforts to explain short - term variability, even if the deviations from the medium
warming trend are not statistically
significant.
One shows a statistically
significant warming (at more than 90 % probability) very similar in magnitude to the surface temperature
trends, the other one doesn't.
I
do not have any problems at all with efforts to explain short - term variability, even if the deviations from the medium
warming trend are not statistically
significant.
The updated data shows a statistically
significant global
warming trend over the 1998 - 2012 period and the authors note that their results «
do not support the notion of a «slowdown» in the increase of global surface temperature.»
The map of thickness temperature spatial
trends and their zonal average over 1979 — 1996 (Fig. 2) shows that
warming in the Northern Hemisphere is statistically
significant only in several small isolated regions, and
does not support a conclusion of general
warming of the Northern Hemisphere troposphere — or the latitudinal characteristics reported in (1).
Phil Jones
did not say that there «had been no
significant warming» he was misquoted from a discussion of the statistical significance of the
trend.
Finally, I judge that the Steig authors were very much aware of showing
warming trends that were statistically
significant and in order to
do that one would be motivated to reach far enough back in time to
do that.
I don't have access to JGR myself so I can't check properly, but everything I can see on the Jones et al 2009 findings again confirms that UHI
does * not * play a
significant role in the observed
warming trend.
Monaghan 2008
does report a
significant cooling at Byrd since 1992 (which pretty much undoes the
warming before that time), but adds a warning: «Because portions of the Byrd record have been reconstructed, the negative temperature
trends may be viewed with skepticism.»
This is spurious in my mind because 1) you have not paid sufficient attention to the fact that the DGP can in fact have a non-linear deterministic
trend and 2) that you can fit other ARIMA (p, 1, q) models to data which will show a
significant warming trend (as B & V
did).