The Swedish professor tells the BAZ that he became
a skeptic of alarmist climate science early on because «the [UN] IPCC always depicted the facts on the subject falsely» and «grossly exaggerated the risks of sea level rise» and that the IPCC «excessively relied on shaky computer models instead of field research.»
Skeptics of alarmist scientists have long been the target of harsh rhetoric from hostile climate alarmist parties, who often refer to scientists such as Spencer and Christy as «climate deniers», a thinly veiled reference to Holocaust deniers.
Not exact matches
In fact, let's extend the low end
of the low range infinitely downward, and the upper end
of the high range infinitely upward (this should be amiable since there are numerous papers who suggest the high end
of the IPCC range is too low and yet hardly extend the low end
of the range downward)-- doing so will allow the ultra
alarmists and the ultra
skeptics to have their positions included as well.
It is notable that while the climate
alarmist movement is funded by billions
of public funds and the
skeptic side is funded by a few million at best and the
alarmists are losing badly, the explanation is found in credibility.
The
skeptics» point is simple: The
alarmists» admit that the first half
of the 20th century can be largely explained by natural variability — solar, etc..
The words «alarmism» and «
alarmist» are clearly part
of the
skeptics new playbook, much as the words «flip - flop» were part
of the Republican playbook.
It is extremely hard to find genuine climate scientists who ARE
alarmist; wheras it is
of course easy to find «
skeptics» who claim that all AGW research is
alarmist, and that this is essential for funding.
As a «rate this comment» feature, you should have a thermometer graphic, that ranges on the scale
of frigid (denier) to cold (
skeptic) to warm (believer) to hot (
alarmist).
Vaclav Klaus, at the
skeptics» conference, spoke
of «climate
alarmists and their fellow travelers in politics and the press».
One
of the ways that «
alarmists» attempt to discredit «
skeptics» is by characterizing us all as not even «believing» the basic science.
At GelbspanFiles.com, my main focus is to amass a collection
of information which shows myriad problems with the accusation that
skeptic climate scientists are paid industry money to lie and spread misinformation, and myriad problems with the people surrounding that accusation, including one
of the main promulgators
of alleged «core evidence» proving it, global
alarmist book author Ross Gelbspan.
Climategate taught me not to read other people's mail, even in the workplace, and that some
skeptics, having learned from
alarmists, are themselves grown too fond
of a gotcha.
The
skeptics here at WUWT (myself included) often hammer the dishonest
alarmists over their willful ignoring
of thermometer measurement precision in temperature records who then try and proclaim «highest - ever» alarmism, when the differences are being proclaimed to hundredths
of a degree.
Ironically the RICO legislation would be far more applicable to the climate
alarmist mob than it would be to any
of the climate
skeptics.
I enjoyed the Senate Hearing, despite the obvious lack
of communication between the competing sides,
skeptics and
alarmists.
A climate
alarmist posts a «Bet» on a site called Truthmarket that she obviously believes is a dagger to the heart
of climate
skeptics.
Associating the label
of «
skeptic» with «denier» is no different than associating the word «warmist» with «
alarmist».
Until then, count me among the
skeptics who consider this a political rather than scientific issue, especially in light
of the fact that it is believed that the Antarctic and arctic shelves are breaking from stress (from «overgrowth»), not due to heat, since they are larger than they have been during recorded history, and that when the
alarmists are proven conclusively to be wrong, they change the terminology («global cooling» to «global warming» to «global climate change» - face it, the global climate always has been and always will be very dynamic).
The crux
of the problem with the «
skeptics» versus «
alarmists» or the «progressists / progressives» versus «traditionalists» debates is that the latter agree to use the language
of the firsts and they do it without a stutter (mostly not knowing that they say or behave like the first ones wanted them to do!).
After all, with little to no funding, virtually barred from science journals, unable to access the mountains
of grant money enjoyed by the
alarmists, and almost completely ignored by the mainstream media, somehow we've gotten our
skeptic ideation to actually seep into the minds
of scientists.
Since the beginning
of this «warmest year» and» warmest decade» meme about four or five years ago, it has been a hallmark argument for an
alarmist who thinks
skeptics are stupid, and for an
alarmist who can't recognize the implicit recognition
of the pause within.
Should scientific
skeptics of AGW be required prove the negative
of all
of the claims
of global warming
alarmists?
The problem here is that Gleick and many contributors to the more
alarmist blogs (DeSmog particularly) appear to believe their self - constructed narrative
of the «
skeptic / denier» has to be true.
A huge problem is that many qualified scientists and others are
skeptic of the Consensus Science, but they work for Alarmist Media or Government Agencies or Schools, that would get rid of them in a minute if they express their Skeptic
skeptic of the Consensus Science, but they work for
Alarmist Media or Government Agencies or Schools, that would get rid
of them in a minute if they express their
SkepticSkeptic Views.
As has been mentioned earlier, I think an accurate historical perspective (evidence)
of the past 50,000 years (to include our early Holocene) would go a long way in building interest from
alarmists and
skeptics in addressing the problem from a factual perspective (what has happened) rather than a mindless modeling game (what answer do we want to make happen).
DeSmogBlog is a highly politicized climate
alarmist website that attacks
skeptics of catastrophic man - caused climate change and the organizations that support them.
Washington Post: «
Skeptic firebrand» Morano praises recession's impact on climate reporting: «Environmental journalism has improved dramatically with these cut - backs and the loss
of these activist reporters... got rid
of some
of their
alarmist reporters»
But bottom line as you suggest: «A
skeptic should talk about the vested career interests
of [
alarmist] climate scientists only if asked to EXPLAIN why [
alarmist] climate science is shoddy.
A
skeptic should talk about the vested career interests
of [
alarmist] climate scientists only if asked to EXPLAIN why [
alarmist] climate science is shoddy.
But
skeptics aren't members
of an organized religion in the way
alarmists seem to be.
I'm hoping that someone will create a post
alarmist narrative that with attract the majority
of the scientifically literate and cut out
of the debate the extreme
alarmists and the extreme climate change
skeptics.
Accordingly climate
alarmists have circled the wagons and refused to debate with climate
skeptics, preferring hit pieces such as Years
of Living Dangerously.
What
skeptics are «skeptical» about is one or more
of the bald assertions
of the
alarmist community — usually that the current round
of climate changes are: abnormal, harmful, or (primarily) anthropogenic.
And you can find any number
of corporate grants openly supporting projects by individuals who may be regarded by some as
skeptics just as these same companies fund research projects supporting the
alarmist narrative.
Now, it is quite possible to find any number
of skeptics in the employ
of industry — as you can find any number
of alarmists in the same professions.
Or, if you want another burrowing mammal analogy, being a climate
skeptic has become a giant game
of Wack - a-Mole, with each day bringing a new flawed argument from
alarmist that must be refuted.
For example, it is impossible for
skeptics and
alarmists to come together so long as
alarmists pretend — as you do, Fred, in this very essay — that recent weather trends in one part
of the world lend proof to their theories and predictions.
And finally, the news media has provided a constant drumbeat
of free PR «news» for
alarmists with a value so great no amount
of purchased advertising by
skeptics could possibly equal it.
You are asking, in effect, that
skeptics simply «shut up and sit down,» that they concede as being true the most flawed and unlikely assumptions
of the
alarmist movement, and that they endorse policies that are wholly unnecessary and extremely costly.
UPDATE: Dr. Judith Curry's transcript
of her verbal testimaony is online here: http://judithcurry.com/2013/04/25/congressional-hearing-on-policy-relevant-climate-issues-in-context/
Skeptics outnumber
alarmists at House
of Representatives session today Subcommittee on Environment Hearing — Policy Relevant Climate Issues in Context Subcommittee on Environment 2318 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, D.C. 20515 Apr 25, 2013 10:00 am Policy Relevant Climate Issues in...
This 122 - post list
of alarmists and
skeptics is very telling about how the subject is treated at large and why it has little chance to be moved toward a logical study
of the technical issues — i.e., if our species faces a threat from CAGW.
Every time climate science has another crack at misanthropy the cool headed
skeptics in the scientific community become more determined to show the world just how much
of a laughingstock they are, in my opinion, the «Man Made Global Warming»
alarmists are kicking a sleeping giant!
The reality is that the
skeptics of CAGW will not convince the
alarmists they are wrong and nor will warmists convince
skeptics they are wrong anytime soon.
The invalid
alarmist hypotheses, the more valid replacements for them, and the general views
of alarmist and
skeptic scientists towards them are as follows:
The honesty and openness characterized by Steve, Judy, NIc and many others in this debate, viewed in the light
of the tactics
of the
alarmists has made me a
skeptic.
Alarmists accept far more science, it's
skeptics by and large who seek to shutdown funding for climate science and deny things like the surface records and the use
of climate models.
He identifies the chronology that
skeptic science was addressing the «pause» well before the
alarmists and characterises all that prior
skeptic science as «seepage», akin to pollution
of climate
alarmist science.
I have read papers, books and blogs
of alarmists and
skeptics.
Contrary to the alleged
alarmist «consensus,» which generally tries to ignore these effects, most
skeptics believe that temperatures are determine by various types
of solar activity but not necessarily by way
of the El Nino Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO).
As the resident expert on losing the debate, and the most ideological commenter here by far, I should remind joelshore that the only reason
alarmist scientists are colluding to exclude
skeptics [and they certainly are, as shown in the Climategate emails], is due to the immense amounts
of taxpayer loot handed out.