Not exact matches
The world
would still warm on average, Meehl says, but the
effect would be ameliorated.
But if so, where is the «missing heat» (Trenberth) or «global
warming still in the pipeline» (Hansen)-- heat storage in the ocean, whose first
effect would be an increasing SLR from thermal expansion?
Mass
has done work that suggests atmospheric rivers, at least along the West Coast, should become more intense in the future with
warming, but that the
effect today is
still small.
But the
warming does not
have an immediate
effect on ozone loss and our observations show that ozone loss
still continues these days.
However, with its smugly objective, disingenuously
warm, and subtly patronizing tone, reminiscent of corporate videos, the voice itself seems to cast doubt on the seriousness of Garcia Torres's strategy of «rehearsing» obscure historical moments in order to see if they can
still have an
effect.
Furthermore, even if one multiplied the solar
effects by a huge factor of 5 (which is unrealistic), no absolute cooling
would take place (the temperatures
would be temporarily cooler than the base scenario, but the trends
would still be
warming).
If we are
still having global
warming — and I suppose we could presume we are, given this 10,000 year history — it seems highly likely that it is
still the overwhelmingly primary cause of continued
warming, rather than our piddling 0.00325 contribution to the greenhouse
effect.
Yet deleterious
effects of
warming are apparent (IPCC 2007), even though only about half of the
warming due to gases now in the air
has appeared, the remainder
still «in the pipeline» due to the inertia of the climate system (Hansen et al 2011).
But the
warming does not
have an immediate
effect on ozone loss and our observations show that ozone loss
still continues these days.
Re 9 wili — I know of a paper suggesting, as I recall, that enhanced «backradiation» (downward radiation reaching the surface emitted by the air / clouds) contributed more to Arctic amplification specifically in the cold part of the year (just to be clear, backradiation should generally increase with any
warming (aside from greenhouse feedbacks) and more so with a
warming due to an increase in the greenhouse
effect (including feedbacks like water vapor and, if positive, clouds, though regional changes in water vapor and clouds can go against the global trend); otherwise it was always my understanding that the albedo feedback was key (while sea ice decreases so far
have been more a summer phenomenon (when it
would be
warmer to begin with), the heat capacity of the sea prevents much temperature response, but there is a greater build up of heat from the albedo feedback, and this is released in the cold part of the year when ice forms later or
would have formed or
would have been thicker; the seasonal
effect of reduced winter snow cover decreasing at those latitudes which
still recieve sunlight in the winter
would not be so delayed).
Even if the legislation took
effect and emissions were curtailed, the world
would still see disruptive pressures building in places already facing severe drought and flood risks with or without the added kick from greenhouse
warming.
In addition there is
still clear evidence in my view for aerosols
having played a significant role in holding back that
warming, which acts on top of the
effects of internal variability which play an important role in fluctuations about the forced changes.
The fact of the matter is that CH4 releases are
still small and
have a small
effect on
warming.
As a non-scientist, it is reassuring that releases of Arctic methane should not force an apocalyptic runaway
warming event, although the
effects will
still have very nasty consequences for our presently comfortable climate.
Back in ’88 there was
still quite a debate about whether the world was in fact
warming or whether the temperature record
had been contaminated by the urban heat island
effect of cities springing up around former rural weather stations.
Of course, «the truth,» according to Inhofe, is that climate change is a myth: «The science is
still out on what
effect CO2 might
have in terms of what they call global
warming and the science is more on our side than on their side.»
In the unlikely event that it is
still large enough to
have any
effect at all it may well take millennia for any
warming of the oceans to become apparent by which time it
would be dwarfed by natural changes anyway.
I hope it will be helpful; many people
still think that a particular amount of
warming will
have the same
effect as
would a change of that amount during a typical day.
So even if the IPCC were right about climate sensitivity, which Lewis» submission makes clear it is not, and even if the programme were to reduce UK carbon emissions, which it will not, the UK
would still be engaging at vast expense in an exercise which will
have no
effect on its alleged motivation, global
warming.
With 2.2 trillion tons of CO2 already in the atmosphere (causing the severe earth -
warming CO2 greenhouse
effect), even if we stopped CO2 production completely, it
would,
still, take about 20 + years to bring atmospheric CO2 concentration into a normal range.
One more time then: even if it were true that only the sun's IR
warms the earth, there
would still be a greenhouse
effect.
Warming produced greater growth in some, less growth in others, and
had no
effect at all on
still others.
I
'd say the Svensmark
effect is
still the best supported alternative model for attribution of
warming at this stage, but the recent satellite data is frustrating the connection at a rather crucial moment.
The «unnatural»
warming so far seen is however trended strongly to the alterations to the planetary surface by Humanity over the past 400 years and the rebalance towards greater kinetic induction (in its cumulative
effect) is now producing observable alterations not only to the Land Surface median Temperature, but to the Ocean (vie conduction / convection) and a
still unconfirmed claim of a small overall rise in Median Atmospheric Temperature, which if «true»
would place the Planetary Biosphere on the «Human Population Plot» with regard to «
warming».
To point out just a couple of things: — oceans
warming slower (or cooling slower) than lands on long - time trends is absolutely normal, because water is more difficult both to
warm or to cool (I mean, we require both a bigger heat flow and more time); at the contrary, I see as a non-sense theory (made by some serrist, but don't know who) that oceans are storing up heat, and that suddenly they will release such heat as a positive feedback: or the water
warms than no heat can be considered ad «stored» (we
have no phase change inside oceans, so no latent heat) or oceans begin to release heat but in the same time they
have to cool (because they are losing heat); so, I don't feel strange that in last years land temperatures for some series (NCDC and GISS) can be heating up while oceans are slightly cooling, but I feel strange that they are heating up so much to reverse global trend from slightly negative / stable to slightly positive; but, in the end, all this is not an evidence that lands»
warming is led by UHI (but, this
effect, I
would not exclude it from
having a small part in temperature trends for some regional area, but just small); both because, as writtend, it is normal to
have waters
warming slower than lands, and because lands» temperatures are often measured in a not so precise way (despite they continue to give us a global uncertainity in TT values which is barely the instrumental's one)-- but, to point out, HadCRU and MSU of last years (I mean always 2002 - 2006) follow much better waters» temperatures trend; — metropolis and larger cities temperature trends actually show an increase in UHI
effect, but I think the sites are few, and the covered area is very small worldwide, so the global
effect is very poor (but it
still can be sensible for regional
effects); but I
would not run out a small
warming trend for airport measurements due mainly to three things: increasing jet planes traffic, enlarging airports (then more buildings and more asphalt — if you follow motor sports, or simply live in a town / city, you will know how easy they get very
warmer than air during day, and how much it can slow night - time cooling) and overall
having airports nearer to cities (if not becoming an area inside the city after some decade of hurban growth, e.g. Milan - Linate); — I found no point about UHI in towns and villages; you will tell me they are not large cities; but, in comparison with 20-40-60 years ago when they were «countryside», many small towns and villages
have become part of larger hurban areas (at least in Europe and Asia) so examining just larger cities
would not be enough in my opinion to get a full view of UHI
effect (
still remembering that it
has a small global
effect: we can say many matters are due to UHI instead of GW, maybe even that a small part of measured GW is due to UHI, and that GW measurements are not so precise to make us able to make good analisyses and predictions, but not that GW is due to UHI).
Nevertheless, both years were
still among the
warmest years on record and
would have been even hotter without this short - term cooling
effect.
http://johnosullivan.livejournal.com/43659.html «Dr. Spencer's essay «Yes, Virginia, Cooler Objects Can Make
Warmer Objects Even
Warmer Still» (July 23, 2011), written to support the greenhouse gas
effect (GHE) the science behind man - made global
warming has sparked increased criticism since publication.
Their paper acknowledges observations that polar bears
have yet to be harmed writing, «Although the
effects of
warming on some polar - bear subpopulations are not yet documented and other subpopulations are apparently
still faring well.»
Besides the (sketchy at best) fact that we contribute a mere 15 ppm CO2 into the atmosphere, we know that the earth IS getting much
warmer and an increasingly faster rate, so even if it is only 15ppm attributed to human activity it is
still having adverse
effects on our planet and can not be ignored.
So far, the initial
effect is
still relatively small for two reasons: (i) part of that
effect has been canceled temporarily by increases in sulfate aerosol, and (ii) the
warming has been delayed because it takes a long time for the vast mass of the ocean to heat up.
... all I could think was how I wish I Mair
had turned it right back around on him, telling Cruz he was grossly wrong; that the data conclusively and obviously show the Earth
has been and
still is
warming, that «the pause» is just a statistical
effect, unreal, and that the clear trend is that the Earth is getting hotter.
Even in the best - case scenario, the one seized upon by Gardner in Brown, in which humans turn out to
have the least possible
effect on the climate, we'll
still only be able to avoid the most dangerous
effects of
warming if our extremely good luck is coupled with aggressive steps taken to reduce emissions.
For example, the urban heat island
effect seems to be a defense of global
warming skeptics, yet I
would ask, «Isn't city heat
still heat?
What is evident is that carbon dioxide
still has the edge in
effecting global
warming - according to Braathen, it contributed 91 % of the total greenhouse gas heating
effect in the past 5 years.
Are you claiming that if the atmosphere were replaced with a different set of gasses that do not contain GHG molecules, but
still had all the other macro
effects such as clouds etc in the exact same amount as our current atmosphere... are you claiming that this atmosphere
would NOT cause (directly or indirectly) the surface of the earth to
warm at all?
But it was cold this winter and C02 is plant food and only a trace gas and the greenhouse
effect has been disproved anyway and even if the greenhouse
effect does exist, C02
has negligible impact compared to water vapour and our only source of heat is the sun so it must be the sun, unless it is due to the C02 from volcanoes, but C02 follows
warming so it can't be the C02 and the medieval
warm period was
warmer anyway and all the temperature reconstructions that show this not to be true are produced by corrupt scientists being paid by corrupt governments that
have colluded to create an excuse to form a one world unelected social - ist government and even if the scientists are not that corrupt, although the e-mails prove they are, they
have still got it wrong as the climate sensitivity is not as high as they think it is because it is basically the planets orbits and cosmic rays so we can say for a fact that the
warming that probably does not exist is definatley not due to humans and even if it was the evidence is not sufficient to make drastic changes to the economy and increase taxes so that the politicians and scientists and business leaders get rich and leave us all poor — do they think we are stupid or something?
Since this book is written by a sceptical French climatoligist who
has no connection to the oil industry or the various liberterian think tanks and who claims indisputably, that the «greenhouse
effect or global
warming scenario is a myth» fostered on the general public by so called scientists, I
would be very interested in hearing your rebuttal, because I am
still in the process of forming an informed opinion.
Trenberth
still relates the
effect from CO2 based on 100ppmv causing an increase of 0.6 °C but does not subtract the 0.5 °C of natural
warming as recovery from the LIA that
has nothing to do with CO2 emissions therefore producing an
effect six times too high for the
effect from increased CO2 Trenberth is not aware that CO2 is not increaseing at an accelerated rate as predicted by Hansen but at a near linear rate averaging 2.037 ppmv / year so by 2100 the concentration will not be as predicted by the IPCC as per scenario A1 but merely reach a level of 573.11 ppmv by 2100, This is only in the case that CO2 increase is maintained but this may not happen as the rate appears to be slowing down with the average rate for the past 5 years being lower than the rate for the past ten years.
Berkeley Lab researchers Dev Millstein and Surabi Menon found that atmospheric feedback — such as changes in cloud cover or precipitation — does
have an important
effect, resulting in different amounts of cooling in different cities, but that cool roofs and pavements are
still beneficial for combating global
warming.
While methane and nitrous oxide make up much smaller portions of total greenhouse gas emissions, these gases are
still important factors in the climate crisis, in part because they each
have stronger global
warming effects than carbon dioxide and also because they constitute an increasing portion of total emissions.
Although
have seen a trend towards El Niño dominance and a weakening of the Walker circulation, there is
still controversy as to the
effect of global
warming on ENSO processes.
WRI's recent research shows that while 49 countries
have peaked their emissions, it is
still insufficient to limit
warming to 1.5 - 2 degrees C (2.7 - 3.6 degrees F) and prevent the worst
effects of climate change.
Few
have suggested that below 2º C of
warming the
effects will be beneficial; the goal of setting that target is to avoid the most dangerous impacts of climate change, and some
still say it's too high.