Believing supernatural claims for which there is not a shred of actual evidence (fact) is not a requirement (fact) of certification or actual delivery of services.
Empathy and the needs of society are better arbiters of morality than an ancient book where half of the rules exist to simply enforce the following of a
specific supernatural claim.
The problem I have with most religions is this; You have a book written by men long ago, when the earth was flat and the center of the universe, making
amazing supernatural claims.
Personally — I don't belive a word of religion (based on hundreds of conflicting stories, told by word of mouth for hundreds or thousands of years, revised by committees,
with supernatural claims, conflicting claims, interpreted differently by every «scholar» — yet every religion claims to be the «truth».
The only reason I would revise my current view is if I was given factual, objective, independent and verifiable evidence for the existence of any god,
the supernatural claims made by believers, and the pompous but meaningless claims such as you have made.
«This person told this unnamed person about what they hear this person saw, and so I wrote it down, but you won't know who I am either» just doesn't cut it, Chad when it comes to
supernatural claims.
Atheists don't believe in any of
the supernatural claims that you are making..
In fact, there is nothing special about christianity — it is just one of many cults that claim to have all the answers, none of which provide any real evidence for any of
their supernatural claims.
That there is no evidence for
the supernatural claims of any religion?
I happen to believe that there are valuable lessons that can be learned from the bible; I just don't believe that
the supernatural claims actually happened.
The difference is that
the supernatural claims of religious dogma are things which can not ever be proven true outside of the context which I have already mentioned, which is the context of belief.
Except for the historical inaccuracies, multiple edits, translation errors and
supernatural claims.
Besides
the supernatural claims that the bible does not condone slavery (it does), we can take a look at recorded history that is concrete in nature and indisputable.
scot Some of the history may be accurate, but there is no way to confirm any of
the supernatural claims.
Even if Jesus existed it doesn't prove any of
the supernatural claims made about him.
Since the believers are making
a supernatural claim that seems to contradict every known natural law that we know about the universe — the burden of proof is on the believers.
And this doesn't prove
their supernatural claims...
But by shifting the emphasis to personal appropriation of the gospel message, they downplayed the importance of
these supernatural claims about the Bible as such and reopened the issue of the value and importance of personal religious experience.
When it comes to
your supernatural claims, there are no first hand eye witness accounts of your claims.
Since the bible mixes in nonsense about «god» and the stories and insights into humanity exist in many places outside of the bible, makes the bible redundant in all things except for
the supernatural claims, none of whic can be verified.
Where's the proof for
the supernatural claims?»
now, while certainly the circu.mstantial (read: natural) claims of the text (such as setting, time, location, etc.) do not necessarily PROVE
the supernatural claims, IF those circu.mstantial claims could be proven false, wouldn't you readily extend the argument to the supernatural claims?
kermit: «so you saying other than culture... the rest of Bible is
all supernatural claims?
so you saying other than culture... the rest of Bible is
all supernatural claims?
I expect you will soon find yourself wondering how different
the supernatural claims of your religious leaders are to the supernatural claims of your average back alley fortune teller or tarot card reader.
If one compares
the supernatural claims of the gospels to those of Joseph Smith, the 11 witnesses claimed to be direct eyewitnesses, their testimonies were contemporaneously recorded, and there is an external record corroborating they were in the right place at the right time; the gospels were recorded second hand, well after the alleged events, and there is no extrinsic record corroborating their presence at the right place at the right time.
There is not a single fact to support
any supernatural claim.
you should have read the paragraph after paragraph that Russ posted in a previous story when confronted with the simple question about providing evidence outside of the bible for
the supernatural claims made in the bible......
There is no evidence to support it and it makes the most outrageous of
supernatural claims — like the one I mocked.
This can be illustrated by
the supernatural claims of other historical prophets.
Do you believe in
the supernatural claims made in the Bible?
«the book» aka The Babble, for which there is zero evidence for
any supernatural claim?
Because of some book that has been shown to be a pile of crap, with not a shred of evidence for any of
its supernatural claims?
The supernatural claims are not proven one whit.