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Its looking like he is building a new
team I support Mr wenger why sell sachez now for 40 million while his replacement will cost us 80 million we need to get players
of good quality first and then we can let go and I am sure if a club comes in with 80 million for sanchez Mr wenger will go for it savilla keep the ball
well and circulates the ball
well so many back passes to retain position they play a shape
of 3331 and very close there was no gaps and they were not afraid to dig in to our players I must admit i like their
system....
Penn State returns pretty much the same
team but should be
better with another year
of conditioning / time to learn the
system.
Saying we have replacements and a young
team is all
good and
well if all the other clubs embraced the same
system we did
of youth development, which they don't.
The 24 - year old from Argentina came through the academy
system at Arsenal and may
well have thought he might never break through into the first
team after being sent out on loan to no less than four different clubs, the latest being for the whole
of last season with Wolves in the Championship.
The balance
of the
team is all wrong at the moment, and whether that is because we need
better OFFENSIVE players that can create those chances without needing to throw 8 players forward, or because the
system just isn't working I am not sure (though I believe it is the latter).
It's difficult to blame Ozil for the difficulties he's faced at Arsenal without looking at the big picture... like the fans, he too was lied to by Wenger... there is no doubt in my mind that he was told by Wenger that he was trying desperately to recreate our earlier success by acquiring players that fit the
system he ran when Henry was in his prime... as we know this hasn't happened... in order for Ozl to flourish he needs some speed up front, forwards that can make intelligent runs, a boss in the midfield to compensate for his obvious defensive liabilities and defenders who can transition from defence to offence quickly and efficiently... much like he had in Real and with the German National squad... unfortunately he ended up on a squad that has a striker who plays with his back to goal, very few intelligent runs into the box, minus Sanchez, no one to take pressure off him in the midfield, once Cazorla was injured, average defensive midfielders around him, which simply highlighted his lacking defensive qualities and defenders who lack the necessary cutting edge when it comes to transitional passing... instead
of blaming Ozil, which is simply too easy, especially considering his mopey disposition, we should be asking ownership and / or Wenger why they brought him in if they didn't intend on doing what was necessary to get the
best from him... can you imagine Ozil playing with the likes
of Henry, Viera, Petit and Pires, it would be incredibly to watch and even more difficult to stop... so the only thing different between his experiences in Real and with the German
team versus his time at Arsenal are the players around him and we all know who is in charge
of making those decisions, the Grinch who stole soccer
Although riding the
best teams through the rest
of the season has been profitable over the last five years, it doesn't appear to be a consistent
system or one worth following blindly.
Stoops was then very excited by the possibility
of a new playoff
system last July, saying that it benefited everyone involved to have «the
best teams in the country to determine a national champion on the football field.»
While armchair managing is all fun and
good... Why on earth would you want us to play a new
system for a game this big!?!? I get fans fondness for the 4 -4-2 while seeing the very entertaining football
teams like Leicester and Atletico play with scything counter attacks... But this is Arsenal playing Chelsea at home after they've had a couple
of disappointing results.
They do kinda slap the entire
system or pattern
of what you need to do to build a
good team in the face.
So instead
of adjusting his
system in order to
best maximize his assets, he blows $ 5mil in cap space trading away Ricky for a lateral move in Teague because a scoring PG fits his
system better (despite the fact that defense was obviously this
team's problem).
Up front we have a few world - class players surrounded by some serious pretenders... Sanchez is by far the most accomplished player in our attack but the controversy surrounding his contractual mishandling could see him go before the window closes or most definitely by season's end... obviously a mistake by both parties involved, as Sanchez's exploits have never been more on display than in North London, but the club's irresponsible wage structure and lack
of real intent have been the real undoing in this mess... Lacazette, who I think has some world - class skills as a front man, will only be as
good as the players and
system around him, which is troubling due to our current roster and Wenger's love
of sideways passing... Walcott should have been sold years ago, enough said, and Welbeck should never have been brought in from the get - go... both
of these players have suffered numerous injuries over their respective careers and neither are
good enough to overcome such difficulties: not to mention, they both are below average first - touch players, which should be the baseline test for any player coming to a Wenger - led Arsenal
team... Perez should have been played wide left or never purchased at all; what a huge waste
of time and money, which is ridiculous considering our penny pinching ways and the fact that fans had been clamoring for a real striker for years... finally Giroud, the fact that he stills wears the jersey is a direct indictment
of this club's failure to get things right... this isn't necessarily an attack on Giroud because I think he has some highly valued skills, but not for a
team that has struggled to take their sideways soccer to the next level, as his presence slows their game even more, combined with our average, at
best, finishing skills... far too often those in charge have either settled or chosen half - measures and ultimately it is us that suffer because no matter what happens Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke will always make more money whereas we will always be the ones paying for their mistakes... so every time someone suggests we should just shut - up and support the
team just think
of all the sacrifices you've made along the way and simply reply... f *** off
Heavy trading during the past two seasons and a thorough search
of the farm
system produced last year a hard - hitting lineup that gave the Cubs the
best team they've had in a long time.
And every time we get a strong (major - conference) No. 3
team (2003, 2004, 2008, 2011), we get talk
of a split national title once they win their bowl game; it doesn't matter whether we think they are as
good as the 1 - versus - 2 winner, it's just that «The
system's broken» and «This whole thing is meaningless without a playoff.»
Verdict So far he blows hot and cold.some
good performance n bad ones are all part
of adjusting to a new
team n
system.
@brada — thanks.i thought i was insane, just thinking that thought
of we missing giroud.you know arsenal believes in the fluid
system of passing the ball and keeping possession but when we play a
team that presses
well and close down space, passing out from the back becomes difficult (for some reason, i du n no our passing has not been as fluid as the era
of FAB, NASIRI, SONG ETC).
This is EPL wenger should try and focus more on defence, our
system is too much
of attack whereas there is no superstar to do the magic, we only base on fast pass tempo, a
well organized
team, just need to keep the ball from us, play from the back, slow down the tempo and we are
well beating.
He can not expect too much with Arsenal's current
system, he had
better move to another
team that is more suitable to his style
of play.
In fact when we add our contrarian filter to the mix and look at home
teams receiving less than 40 %
of public bets, this
system becomes even more advantageous with a 96 - 68 record —
good for 23.28 units earned and a 14.2 % return on investment (ROI).
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety
of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style
of play has become a shadow
of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out
of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian
system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid
of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out
of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes
of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play
of Monreal, but none
of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio
of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (
better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national
team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit
better during some points in the latter part
of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part
of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature
of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player
of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out
of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front
of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National
team's midfield, where
teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that,
of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one
of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one
of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already
of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs
of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this
team or the offensive
system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack
of mobility is an albatross around the necks
of our offence... so when you ask who would be our
best starting 11, I don't have a clue because
of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this
team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
He's a guy necessary to be a
good team, but we don't have anyone in the
system that are that type
of player at all
Nottingham forest won two European cups back to back after just being promoted to the then 1st division and were a
team of average unknown players (but fighters with strength) who were forged by Brian Clough into a winning and functioning
system to beat the
best Europe had to offer TWICE CONSECUTIVELY!
This period is purely to get match fitness and to use proper matches rather than training ground for new players to understand the
system as
well as giving Arsene a chance to see which
of the youngatefs might be able to cut it and also to see which
of the 1st
team squad might be able to cover other positions (or not as the case seems to be with Elneny!)
What a poor mentality some
of us fans have.The
system and tactis is not
good and unlike many even after so called impressive wins I still stand to my word because the truth is only what can set us free.We want to excel yet the coach will not change this funny
system and some
of the average players in the
team.
Many thinks that our defensive is not as
good as other
teams, yes overall it might seems so but tactically the pattern
of our
system we use to play results our defensive to look shaky at times.
A second possibility is that NFL
teams have gotten
better at accounting for the effects
of systems and surrounding talent.
The
team is not fighting and there's only one reason this happens: lack
of confidence in the
system, lack
of confidence in the fact that whatever they do they will end up second
best.
I think we had the opportunity to take Chelsea, but we blew, by not being tactically prepared, Wenger considers is
best team With Ozil, Ramsay and Cazorla, in the
team at the same time, and to be honest the majority
of the times it has worked, however chelsea has a
good defensive
system (parked bus), one tactics to compact this
system is pacey wide players and a two prong attack to keep but defenders occupied.
But then you yourself compare Bale to his previous season performances when he actually had a
well defined role, the
team played a different
system and hr played a lot
of minutes regularly.How is that fair??
This
team, is part
of a much larger structure and
system and that
system is how can I put it, not functioning very
well as a footballing entity (very
well as a business one).
Now we hv the finances, we r bringing in quality players and keeping hold
of our star players and crucially our veteran players too (do nt underestimate that) Wenger now has a
good mix
of players including a revamped youth
system were all the players are top quality and trained to suit the first
team needs.
Trying to fit, convert players so they make up a
team as opposed to having a
system of play and then finding the
best / specialist players for those positions.
Not only add a coach who helped design a
good defence, but one who designed a
good defence built around an extremely talented big man.One
of our criticisms
of Gentry (whether completely deserved or not) is that he's inflexibly attached to «his»
system, regardless
of the personnel on the
team.
Nothing like one underachiever blowing smoke up the ass
of another... we know that Ozil has some incredible technical gifts, but to be considered the
best you have to bring more than just assists to the table... for me, a top player has to possess a more
well - rounded game, which doesn't mean they need to be a beast on both ends
of the pitch, but they must have the ability to take their game to another level when it matters most... although he amassed some record - like stats early on, it set the bar too high, so when people expected him to duplicate those numbers each year the pressure seemed to get the
best of our soft - spoken star... obviously that's not an excuse for what has happened in the meantime, but it's important to make note
of a few things: (1) his
best year was a transition year for many
of the traditionally dominant
teams in the EPL, so that clearly made the numbers appear
better than they actually were and (2) Wenger's
system, or lack thereof, didn't do him any favours; by playing him out
of position and by not acquiring world - class striker and / or right - side forward that would
best fit an Ozil - centered offensive scheme certainly hurt his chances to repeat his earlier peformances, (3) the loss
of Cazorla, who took a lot
of pressure off Ozil in the midfield and was highly efficient when it came to getting him the ball in space, negatively impacted his effectiveness and (4) he likewise missed a
good chunk
of games and frankly never looked himself when he eventually returned to the field... overall the Ozil experiment has had mixed reviews and rightfully so, but I do have some empathy for the man because he has always carried himself the same way, whether for Real or the German National
team, yet he has only suffered any lengthy down periods with Arsenal... to me that goes directly to this club's inability to surround him with the necessary players to succeed, especially for someone who is a pass first type
of player; as such, this simply highlights our club's ineffective and antiquated transfer policies... frankly I'm disappointed in both Ozil and our management
team for not stepping up when it counted because they had a chance to do something special, but they didn't have it in them... there is no one that
better exemplifies our recent history than Ozil, brief moments
of greatness undercut by long periods
of disappointing play, only made worse by his mopey posturing like a younger slightly less awkward Wenger... what a terribly waste
Oli has only played twice for Conte's
team so far, but it seems he is fitting in perfectly with their
system and it raises the question that perhaps Wenger could have made
better use
of the Frenchman's strong points.
All that would take is for MLB to get 30 different business interests to give up the particulars
of their disparate TV rights and gate receipts and pool them for the common
good, even though the current revenue - sharing
system is already pissing off the big - market
teams because the small - market
teams aren't spending enough
of that money.
Secondly, Wenger needs to become far more flexible when it comes to his formation selections... remember this is the same individual that hadn't used a 3 - back
system for 20 years and only conceded to the experiment when the proverbial shit hit the fan... you know it killed him to adopt «Conte's»
system, which is probably why he resisted so long; in fact his stubbornness to adjust even earlier might have cost us the 4 hole... much like most sports that have tactical formations, every
team should have a «base» offensive and defensive scheme, but they likewise need to have some inherent flexibility depending on the opposing
teams tactics and / or when specific substitutions are made... how many times have you watched a Wenger - run
team make a late substitution but not change their shape on the pitch... furthermore, how many times have you seen our
team fail to make the necessary adjustments at halftime due to Wenger's tactical stubbronness, which often led to giving up goals in the early minutes
of the second - half... the
best teams in the world know how to make halftime adjustments whereas we always seem to be surprised when the opposing
team throws a wrinkle into the mix following halftime... this my friend is soccer 101
A 4 -3-3
system is favoured by Barca, Real Madrid and Man City and Bayern, the top four
teams in Europe.It suits the attacking philosophy
of Arsene Wenger which is to his credit.Unfortunately we do not have the top quality defenders these
teams have nor a dominant DM.Nevertheless it is the
best system for our current
team which is top heavy in attacking midfielders hence the need to play Ozil and Mik in wide positions.In my opinion the most balanced central midfield would consist
of Elneny, Ramsay and Wilshere.Elneny was first class against Watford yet was left out against an average Milan side to accommodate the ever present Xhaka who will no doubt feature against CSK.