Climate scientists should be
talking about natural variability, instead of pretending it is just «noise» on an overwhelming AGW signal.
Dr Curry, a climate scientist at Georgia Tech, wrote:» Climate scientists should be
talking about natural variability, instead of pretending it is just «noise» on an overwhelming AGW signal.
So they are
talking about natural variability superimposed on a long term trend due to anthropogenic forcing.
Not exact matches
As an addendum, the reason that
natural variability is often
talked about is because the historical observed record is used to test and constrain the models [and the assumptions that they have made
about step 0 and step 3], but the
natural variability creates a signal to noise problem.
As to the bottom line, we are
talking about changes to a fundamental part of the ocean carbon cycle, far outside the range of
natural variability, that are irreversible and will last for thousands of years.
Question: before
talking about simulating climate CHANGE, how long does the climate science community expect it to take before GCM's can reproduce the real world climate PRIOR to human induced CO2 perturbation in terms of: — «equilibrium point», i.e. without artificial flux adjustment to avoid climatic drift, — «
natural variability», in terms of, for instance, the Hurst coefficient at different locations on the planet?
AIUI Hansen addresses that in the paper when he
talks about the range of unforced
natural variability — it's illustrated in Fig. 7.
Now you have
talked about 4 years weather data having a meaning (0.25 degree climb in GAT) whereas we all know that
natural variability on a seasonal basis at least in Australia can be around 10 degrees C and on a daily basis something around the same as well.
Your comments leave me scratching my head because really I am not building models in math space in some abstract exercise but
talking about observed
natural variability.
I on the contrary am explicitly
talking about research on
natural variability that is «primarily associated with the drivers of global temperature change».
UW Today
talks with Qinghua Ding and Axel Schweiger
about a new study published in Nature Climate Change of how
natural variability affects sea ice loss in the Arctic.
All this
talk of
natural variability follows a decade of no warming, and subsequent to a variety of claims that we have been
about to experience warmer and warmer weather, which have been contradicted later by revised projections, and climate reality, as we reported on Monday.
This is a common theme with
natural variability versus sustained change whether
talking about the imbalance or surface temperature.
«We're
talking about relatively subtle levels of warming, where we have to really think much harder
about natural variability and so forth to take that into account when we're
talking about the risks at these different levels of warming.»