When the Bible uses the words «save» or «salvation,» it is almost never
talking about eternal life, but is instead referring to some sort of temporal or physical deliverance from sickness, death, enemies, or other calamity.
Now again, this is not
talking about eternal life.
And no, I am not
talking about eternal life in any of those sentences.
Even if so, I don't think any of those passages you referred to are
talking about eternal life.
This is not
talking about eternal life, but about surviving the tribulation.
The debate over «Once Saved, Saved Saved» is easily solved, however, when we realize that almost none of those verses which talk about «salvation» are actually
talking about eternal life.
Bartchy never
talks about eternal life at UCLA, just the social justice side of Jesus.
When the Bible wants to
talk about eternal life, it uses terms like «eternal life» or «everlasting life.»
The only difference between the two definitions is that the first
talks about eternal life while the second talks about salvation.
Not exact matches
tallulah:
Talking to someone on their death bed
about eternal life is a most important discussion point.
If she's not witnessing to the person and
talking to them
about eternal life through Jesus Christ, she's not ultimately doing them any good.
Paul was
talking to CHRISTIANS and
talking about th
eternal life with God... use the context..
God created Adam from a handful of dirt and his spouse from a rib;
Talking snakes; trees that bear fruit, that imparts knowledge and eternal life; a global flood, that required a pair of each organism on earth, be stuffed onto a boat; people who lived hundreds of years; a man who was swallowed by a fish, only to be spit up 3 days later, unhurt; a tower god was afraid might reach heaven; a woman who is turned into a pillar of salt; talking donkeys; unicorns; satyrs; a leviathan god creates and then does battle with; a zombie messiah, who was actually god incarnate; zombie Saints who left their graves and wandered about the town; belief in a circular, flat
Talking snakes; trees that bear fruit, that imparts knowledge and
eternal life; a global flood, that required a pair of each organism on earth, be stuffed onto a boat; people who
lived hundreds of years; a man who was swallowed by a fish, only to be spit up 3 days later, unhurt; a tower god was afraid might reach heaven; a woman who is turned into a pillar of salt;
talking donkeys; unicorns; satyrs; a leviathan god creates and then does battle with; a zombie messiah, who was actually god incarnate; zombie Saints who left their graves and wandered about the town; belief in a circular, flat
talking donkeys; unicorns; satyrs; a leviathan god creates and then does battle with; a zombie messiah, who was actually god incarnate; zombie Saints who left their graves and wandered
about the town; belief in a circular, flat earth.
But this passage is not
talking about how to receive
eternal life, but is instead
talking about how God rescued us from our enslavement to the sin of death and showed us a new way of
life in Jesus Christ.
The term salvation is more appropriately used in this sense because we are
talking about a finality: the decision whether one will attain
eternal life.
Again, most of the references you refer to are
talking about something other than
eternal life.
Regarding Hebrew 5:9 and Revelation 14:12, I don't think that either reference is
talking about how to receive
eternal life.
Of course, when we realize that baptism is NOT required for
eternal life, then this entire debate fades away into meaninglessness, but we already
talked about this...
If we are
talking about how to receive
eternal life, it is not simple belief that matters, but believing in the right person for the right thing.
While Peter does teach that baptism saves us, a careful study of the context reveals that Peter is not
talking about gaining
eternal life and going to heaven when we die.
He is
talking about a finite world that is infinitely holy, a world of time that is filled with
life that is
eternal.
He said that he always
talks about the death and resurrection, but that if someone believed in Jesus for
eternal life before he had the chance to tell them
about the death and resurrection, he thought they would probably go to heaven, but wasn't sure.
Usually, even a non-Christian knows something
about the earth, the heavens, and other elements of the world... Now it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an unbeliever to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture,
talking nonsense on these topics... How are they going to believe these books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of
eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven?
As for Matthew 19:21 - 24, I don't think Jesus was
talking about how to get to heaven or receive
eternal life in that text.
On the other hand, there were other men who disagreed: Tertullian, who believed that the soul would
live on forever, that the wicked would suffer misery in proportion to the righteous» reward; St. Augustine, who came up with the doctrines of Original Sin and Predestination (some would be saved, the rest would be damned); and Jerome, who would end up retranslating the Latin Bible into what would become the Latin Vulgate and would twist various scriptures that
talked about eonian chastening into teaching
eternal torment.
But if the Book of
Life contains the names of people who have eternal life, then when Revelation 3:5 talks about blotting someone's name out of the book of life, does this mean it is possible to lose eternal l
Life contains the names of people who have
eternal life, then when Revelation 3:5 talks about blotting someone's name out of the book of life, does this mean it is possible to lose eternal l
life, then when Revelation 3:5
talks about blotting someone's name out of the book of
life, does this mean it is possible to lose eternal l
life, does this mean it is possible to lose
eternal lifelife?
t its most fundamental level, Christianity requires a belief that an all - knowing, all - powerful, immortal being created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies 13,720,000,000 years ago (the age of the Universe) sat back and waited 10,000,000,000 years for the Earth to form, then waited another 3,720,000,000 years for human beings to gradually evolve, then, at some point gave them
eternal life and sent its son to Earth to
talk about sheep and goats in the Middle East.
So, for example, if your hear a pastor saying, «You have to take up your cross daily and follow Jesus in order to go to heaven when you die,» you can look in the text he is preaching from (maybe Matthew 16:24 - 26 or Luke 9:23 - 26), and see that Jesus is
talking about saving your
life (which is NOT the same thing as receiving
eternal life) by
living in a profitable way here on earth (cf. Luke 9:24 - 25).
Remember, Paul is not
talking in Ephesians
about how to receive
eternal life; He is writing to Christians
about how to
live out the
life in Christ they already have.
Or some hear the gospel as a metaphorical message
about how to
live a better
life in the here and now and view any
talk of after -
lives,
eternal damnation, and saving as only metaphor that tends to get abused when it is used to stir up fear in order to get converts and tithing members.
What this means is that when Paul
talks about blindness and the veil in 2 Corinthians 2 — 3, he is not
talking primarily
about how a person receives
eternal life by faith in Jesus Christ, but
about all the other truths of the gospel which are contained in the rest of Scripture, and which are centered on the person and work of Jesus Christ.
While we can agree with the Calvinist that Jesus» words are blunt and forceful
about the choice that He made, we must disagree with the Calvinist that the choice Jesus is
talking about is in regards to who receives
eternal life.
If we read these passages thinking they are
talking about how to receive
eternal life, we will get very confused.
Also thank you for the revelation
about Romans 10:9 which
talks about the salvation over the power of sin rather than
eternal life.
They are the ones I am hoping to reach, and who are receptive to
talking about Jesus, and His promise of
eternal life to those who believe in Him for it.
Obviously I am not
talking about the mechanical motion of the planets or the rumpus of atoms and molecules, but
about the
eternal beingness of intelligent, purposing, seeking
life.
So who are you
talking to
about the free offer of
eternal life through faith in Jesus?
You are
talking with a man
about how to receive
eternal life.
Hardly any serious medical scientist will
talk about achieving
life eternal, but they are perfectly comfortable in projecting cures in the future for all of the important lethal diseases.
So how did these verses get from
talking to Nicodemus
about eternal life to abiding in the truth.
Whether we are
talking about receiving
eternal life, OR experiencing the kingdom, either way, you can not do it unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and pharisees.
So if people think that when the Bible
talks about reward, it is actually referring to
eternal life, it is no wonder that people get confused
about how to receive the free gift of
eternal life.
Hence in the end it would seem as if that true
eternal claim that demands purity of heart, by willing one thing, were done away with, as if it had been withdrawn from government, set away in retirement at such a distance from daily
life that there simply could be no
talk about it.
You
talked with a man
about how to receive
eternal life.
In Romans 8:28 - 30, Paul is not
talking about an
eternal decree from eternity past
about to whom He would give
eternal life, but rather, God's plan from eternity past to bring those who believe in Jesus into conformity to the image of Jesus Christ, which does not fully occur until glorification (cf. Eph 1:4; 4:1; 5:27; Col 1:22 - 23).
In a recent book (After Death:
Life in God, SCM Press) I have argued that what has just been said is a proper «demythologizing» of traditional Christian talk about death, judgment, resurrection, and eternal l
Life in God, SCM Press) I have argued that what has just been said is a proper «demythologizing» of traditional Christian
talk about death, judgment, resurrection, and
eternal lifelife.
Instead, there are consequences in this
life (loss of relationships with others, loss of health, even loss of
life), and consequences at the Judgment Seat of Christ where we experience shame and loss of
eternal reward (this is what Paul is
talking about in 2 Corinthians 5:10).
So the next time you are
talking with someone
about the gospel or how to receive
eternal life, don't use unclear and muddled statements.
Gil if we only received one blessing in this
life and that was
eternal life in Jesus Christ that alone would be enough but we are blessed way more than that because we have been sent his holy spirit to help us overcome our old nature.He never leaves us nor forsakes us whether good or bad happens he strengthens us in our weakness.It says in the bible that the rain falls on both the righteous or the wicked God is fair to all whether they deserve it or not he can not be anything else than a holy righteous loving and fair God.I do nt need to convince you to believe
about God he will reveal himself to you if you are seeking the truth as he is the truth.I do nt try and make others believe its pointless.I know without a doubt that i am saved and my sins are forgiven.As a christian it will a joy to be with the Lord there is no fear in death for those that love him.In the meantime i serve him with all my heart until he calls me home.I love
talking about the Lord but each of us must walk according to what we believe.I trust my
life to Jesus Christ and i choose to follow him who do you follow?
At its most fundamental level, Christianity requires a belief that an all - knowing, all - powerful, immortal being created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies 13,700,000,000 years ago (the age of the Universe) sat back and waited 10,000,000,000 years for the Earth to form, then waited another 3,700,000,000 years for h.omo sapiens to gradually evolve, then, at some point gave them
eternal life and sent its son to Earth to
talk about sheep and goats in the Middle East.