I know this is a cherry pick from the emails and Trenberth is not
talking about global temperature, but don't know where to find the blog post where I read about this.
But he did not understand that we are
talking about global temperatures.
Citing the GISTEMP global anomally as he does, that should indicate that he is
talking about global temperatures, but it turns out he is not.
Titley passed on the opportunity — which Mr. Takano offered up twice — and instead
talked about global temperature trends and the probability of getting heads if you flip a coin 36 times.
IIRC, Trenberth is
talking about global temperatures, but he is saying that the energy that we know is arriving is not accounted for in his famous energy balance paper.
Not exact matches
Scientific studies of
global warming
talk about the variation of the earths
temperature over millions of years — oops.
He didn't provide any clues
about the substance of the
talk or if he urged Trump to reconsider the role that humans have in raising
global temperatures.
Specificaly, we were
talking about a regional warming event in the context of an otherwise unremarkable month for «
Global»
temperatures.
Mike Wallace's
talk was
about the «National Research Council Report on the «Hockey Stick Controversy»... The charge to the committee, was «to summarize current information on the
temperature records for the past millennium, describe the main areas of uncertainty and how significant they are, describe the principal methodologies used and any problems with these approaches, and explain how central is the debate over the paleoclimate record within the overall state of knowledge on
global climate change.»
CC: NO, we are
talking about how the anthropogenic addition of CO2 and other greenhouse gases to the atmosphere will effect
global temperatures and hence climate.
If you're
talking about global mean
temperature I would advise you to compare the projections of the IPCC to the actual measurements of GISS as well as HadCRUT, RSS MSU, and UAH MSU measured data.
Oerlemans's reconstruction of
global temperatures (largely from mid latitude glaciers) is entirely independent of the much
talked about temperature records from other paleoclimate proxy data (e.g. Moberg and others, Mann and others, Crowley and others).
We are thus not
talking about changes primarily in
global mean
temperature (these are small in the model results shown above).
I should add too that I was not allowed at work to study or
talk about trends in frequency and magnitude of floods or trends in
temperatures and precipitation, due to the «highly political and controversial subject of
global warming».
Global warming is talking about the mean global annual surface temper
Global warming is
talking about the mean
global annual surface temper
global annual surface
temperature.
The Nature study is
talking about changes associated with ocean circulation even while CO2, and the
global imbalance, and
global temperature, is increasing.
[Response: Note that the numbers we are
talking about are the
global average
temperature anomaly (not absolute
temperature).
Why do the folks
talking about ice sheet melt,
talk about «
global temperature», when what affects the ice melt / ice dynamics is the
temperature adjacent to the ice?
Neil confronted them with the claim that the Antarctic ice is getting thicker, and asked them to explain how this was compatible with
global warming; he also
talked about mean
temperatures and the trend in the same since 1998 (see the programme from
about 7 minutes in, and also from
about 9m 15s in).
Also, the term «
global pattern of warming» implies regional
temperature change, which pushes the climate system response discussion to a much higher level of complexity than when simply
talking about changes in
global - mean climate.
I suspect that it looked OK in your view or you didn't check; «the paper i cited
talks of the hiatus in
global temperatures for the past 20 years or so, that the Little Ice Age was
global in extent, and that climate models can not account for the observations we already have let alone make adequate predictions
about what will happen in the future.
There are many who will not like this recent paper published in Nature Communications on principle as it
talks of the hiatus in
global temperatures for the past 20 years or so, that the Little Ice Age was
global in extent, and that climate models can not account for the observations we already have let alone make adequate predictions
about what will happen in the future.
This is what most of us think of when we
talk about «
Global Warming»; that it is changes in the air
temperature!
Assume the accuracy of each thermometer is + / - 5 % (this is climate science, we can assume lots of things), you also have to factor in at least the time of day, day of the year, and depth of the water measured (we are after all
talking about global average
temperatures).
I am going to
talk about how changes with local
temperature, pikas, whitebark park pines, and snowpack, may be an indication
global climate change is impacting Crater Lake.»
We
talk about temperatures in high latitude areas, like the Arctic, because, as a general rule, high latitude areas are much more sensitive to human stress than the
global average.
I am still waiting for word on what the
global temperature anomaly for the month was, but I suspect it will be fairly close to normal, which means that on average the
temperature of the Earth will come in at ~ 12.0 °C which is 4 °C colder than it will be in 6 months from now, but because of how they
talk about temperature, I will be the only one pointing out the difference between the actual
temperature and the anomaly
temperature.
This article by Brian Kahn really highlights the manifest idiocy of
talking about a «pause» or «hiatus» in
global temperature increases:
With all the stern
talk about global warming and widespread concern over climate change, you would think that we humans would have a propensity for cooler
temperatures.
Finally, the Paris Agreement has some nice language in the preamble
talking about an aspirational goal of holding the increase of
global temperature well below 2, and to pursue efforts to limit the
temperature increase 1.5
On the other hand, I'm not
talking about smaller eruptions» effects on the
global temperature.
Finally, the Paris Agreement has some nice language in the preamble
talking about an aspirational goal of holding the increase of
global temperature well below 2, and to pursue efforts to limit the
temperature increase 1.5 °C.
But one thing you may want to consider is whether they are actually
talking about temperature as a local quantity that does not vary with altitude or instead as a
global quantity that has no relationship to altitude.
There is even a slightly finer distinction that is almost always skipped: when it comes to the land record, we're
talking about global surface air
temperature.
When we say «
global warming» what we're actually
talking about here are the air
temperatures which, as one of the authors told me, is a relatively «fickle» measure of climate change.
Worse, this
talk you suggest
about «how much» and «warming pause» legitimizes both the impossible «greenhouse effect» and the nonsensical «
global temperature» calculations, both being the very foundation of the climate alarm.
I understand the difference between «
temperature» and «heat», but aren't we
talking about global «warming» (i.e. an increase in
temperature) as opposed to
global «delta - heat»?
If you're
talking about a change in the rate, trend of warming, or even just say that «warming has slowed» in the context of the general discussion
about global temperature records, you are implying something
about a change in trend.
I'm not
talking about higher
temperatures per se, but a reorganization of the
global weather system.
Climate science deniers are very fond of showing extremely deceptive
temperature graphs: They plot the data starting in 1998, when
temperatures were higher than average, so it looks like the world hasn't gotten much warmer since then, and
talk about the
global warming «pause.»
NASA corrects the
temperature record for the US, making it clearer that 1934 was the hottest year on record - for the US - and skeptics
talk about it as if it was the
global temperature.
I looked under the heading
global temperatures list of contents and «Estimates of recent
global air
temperature change» and it shows graphically exactly what your
talking about.
I on the contrary am explicitly
talking about research on natural variability that is «primarily associated with the drivers of
global temperature change».
If we're
talking dishonesty, then WUWT and their followers need to confess to the dishonesty they have been perpetrating
about the pause in
global temperature increases.
Global warming works when
talking about temperatures.
(Part of the How to
Talk to a
Global Warming Skeptic guide) Objection: Taking into account the logarithmic effect of CO2 on
temperature, the 35 percent increase we have already seen in CO2 concentrations represents
about three - quarters of the total...
(Part of the How to
Talk to a
Global Warming Skeptic guide) Objection: The Kyoto treaty, even if fully implemented, would only save us
about a tenth of a degree of future
temperature rise many decades from now.
There's a puny ~ 0.1 C
global temperature adjustment difference that we're
talking about.
This runaway effect that manmade climate change believers
talk about comes from the hypothesis that climate change feedback mechanisms are positive and the small warming we have experienced will lead to drastic increases in
global temperature.
Probably the most
talked about, and measured aspect to climate is «
global average
temperature.»