Of further dissecting interest would be contrasting moving to low cost ETF's and mutual funds in
taxable accounts vs. tax advantaged accounts.
Does one take a different strategy for bond investments in
taxable accounts vs. retirement accounts?
FMF readers, any thoughts on
a taxable account vs. adding to my 403 (b)?
Not exact matches
As for your question, a non-deductible Traditional IRA
vs. a
taxable account.
Roth
vs. Traditional IRA Contributions — In recent years, we have moved up a rung or two on the federal tax bracket to the point where, in all likelihood, it will be higher than our
taxable income in retirement (basically just expecting investment income on our
taxable brokerage
account and withdrawals from traditional retirement plans for income in retirement).
Taking money out of an IRA
vs. a ROTH IRA
vs. a
taxable account can make a big difference when you are retired.
In a
Taxable account the annuity's taxable benefits would be $ 2,787 for Prescribed vs. $ 4,372 (but falling) for Non-pres
Taxable account the annuity's
taxable benefits would be $ 2,787 for Prescribed vs. $ 4,372 (but falling) for Non-pres
taxable benefits would be $ 2,787 for Prescribed
vs. $ 4,372 (but falling) for Non-prescribed.
Does it matter if the portfolio is in a
taxable vs. tax - favored
account?
It was only in comparing to muni bond funds that I discussed looking at after - tax yields, so it's not a matter of
taxable vs. tax - advantaged
accounts, but of the additional alternative of tax - exempt bonds in
taxable accounts.
If you assume, for example, that the
account owner faces a 35 % marginal tax rate while the beneficiary pays tax at a 15 % rate, then the traditional IRA plus
taxable account beats the Roth by a somewhat wider margin of almost 3 %, or $ 349,000
vs. $ 340,000.
For example, if the
account owner is in the 35 % tax bracket and the beneficiary is in the 28 % bracket — a difference of just seven percentage points
vs. the 13 percentage points of dropping from a 28 % to 15 % tax rate — those two advantages are enough to put the conversion ahead of the traditional IRA plus
taxable account by nearly 4 % after 20 years, $ 340,000
vs. $ 328,000.
So, for example, if you take the same scenario described above but assume the beneficiary is in a lower tax bracket — say, 15 % for the beneficiary
vs. 28 % for the
account owner — the traditional IRA plus
taxable account comes out slightly ahead of the Roth, albeit the margin is small, about 1 %, or $ 344,000
vs. $ 340,000.
Let's assume I pose the following set of facts: 1) I need to plan for a 60 year retirement, 2) I want to have at the end of Year 60 100 % of my original balance (inflation adjusted obviously), 3) Only 10 % of my savings / investments is in tax deferred
accounts (e.g., the bulk are in a
taxable accounts), 4) I need a 6 % withdrawal rate pre-tax, and 5) I am indifferent to strategy (VII, etc) and asset choices (annuity
vs. dividend blend
vs. income, etc) but to guarantee the goals above.
Analyze a variable annuity: Input PV, current age, PMT, tax rate, surrender charges, withdrawal age, I, tax rate, and it calculates the long - term growth of
taxable vs. tax - free
account.
You can also see the difference in the savings, payout, and expense amounts needed with a Section 529 Qualified Tuition Plan
vs. just saving in a
taxable investment
account.