I noticed you said, «But after this initial preaching of the Gospel and water baptism followed by Spirit baptism, the baptism of the Spirit comes immediately upon a person believing in Jesus for eternal life, whether or not they get water baptized» I must loving tell you this isn't what the bible
teaches about baptism.
When the church
teaches about baptism, one of the things it often says is that baptism is the first step of discipleship.
When John the Baptist came preaching and
teaching about baptism, he was calling such a remnant to make a public declaration of their desire to follow God in righteousness and faithfulness.
Not exact matches
A Church, which is led by the Holy Spirit, will surely
teach correctly
about baptism.
Well, if we translate the Greek word baptizma in Matthew 28:19 - 20, we get a clue as to what Jesus might have actually been
teaching... and this leads to the one crazy suggestion
about Matthew 28:19 - 20 that might help solve this particular
baptism debate.
And not just Jesus: A whole gospel in all of its theological details — right down to debates
about baptism, the relationship of law to grace, and the problem of divine foreknowledge — is
taught to the people of the New World centuries before Jesus was even born.
While Peter does
teach that
baptism saves us, a careful study of the context reveals that Peter is not talking
about gaining eternal life and going to heaven when we die.
Is it possible that the reason that the Corinthians were so concerned
about baptism is that they had been taught by the Apostle Paul and other Christian evangelists that salvation and the promise of the resurrection of the dead and eternal life are received in Baptism, just as orthodox Christians, including Lutherans, have been teaching for almost 2,000
baptism is that they had been
taught by the Apostle Paul and other Christian evangelists that salvation and the promise of the resurrection of the dead and eternal life are received in
Baptism, just as orthodox Christians, including Lutherans, have been teaching for almost 2,000
Baptism, just as orthodox Christians, including Lutherans, have been
teaching for almost 2,000 years??
Into the brief period of which we have a record are compressed his
baptism by John the Baptist — a prophet of the Old Testament stamp — his time of solitary meditation and temptation in the wilderness, the calling of his twelve most intimate disciples, his going
about with them healing and
teaching in Galilee and its environs, the journey to Jerusalem and his triumphal entry, the stormy events of passion week, his crucifixion, and resurrection.
Baker reports
about the response to one of his six - day preaching tour: «The men of four villages wished at once to cut off their top - knots, and asked for
baptism forthwith... I said that faith and patience were the life of Christ's people, and that a profession of this nature could not be put on and off like clothing: they had better wait;... But they said, «You must destroy our devil - places, and
teach us to pray to our Father, as you call Him, in Heaven, or some beginning must be made.»
So are
baptism and Holy Communion, preaching and
teaching...
about Jesus.
Yesterday I suggested that Matthew 28:19 - 20 is not talking
about water
baptism at all, but is instead talking
about being immersed into and fully identified with the
teaching about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The Bible clearly
teaches water
baptism is necessary to be saved John 3:3 - 5 which Jesus says Water and Spirit Romans 6: 3 - 4 and many many more places you are right
about some of the things
baptism represents but please take a closer look at why all the conversions in Acts involve water
baptism.
Is it possible that men reject God's
teaching about water
baptism due to their own pride?
But his deep concern for retaining ethical coherence in a postmodern world was also evident, as was his traditional allegiance to Jesus: «In his
baptism, his
teaching, his healings, his passion, death and resurrection — in all of it, there is a demand laid on us, or an offer tendered, and it is the task of the Christian to embody that offer in his world, being as candid as he can
about the difference between Jesus» beliefs and his.»
The reality of the washing away of sins in
baptism has been
taught since the earliest days, but the
teaching about forgiveness has developed: «The power of
baptism to remit sins was so great that rigorists held that sins committed after
baptism were possibly unforgiveable, and this motivated some people — Constantine but also future saints such as Basil, Gregory Nazianzen, Ambrose, Augustine and Chrysostum — to delay receiving it.»
The first reason they suggest that a person might believe in God is that if someone is brought up a Catholic then: «to keep the promises they made at the
baptism, the parents would probably
teach them prayers... they would say prayers to God thanking him for looking after them and so it would seem natural for them to believe in God... at church, they would hear people talking
about God and assume that God exists.»
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teaching of the Gospel; through the grace of God; faith;
Baptism and through loving service to God and to mankind.
About Blog Saint Stefanos Greek Orthodox Church is dedicated to the continuation of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ's ministry of salvation through the proclamation and
teaching of the Gospel; through the grace of God; faith;
Baptism and through loving service to God and to mankind.