He had good reason to do so as global
temperatures fit his curve less well than do his (idiosyncratic) European temperatures:
Not exact matches
William and Stillwell chose to study green roofs over other forms of green infrastructure for a very simple reason: There was one on campus
fitted with the instrumentation needed to measure soil moisture, rainfall amount,
temperature, humidity and many other variables that are plugged into their fragility
curve model.
, and g) Scafetta and West's statistical
fit of
temperature to an obsolete solar forcing
curve means that all other detection and attribution work is wrong.
Test of the Hasselmann model through a regression analysis, where the coloured
curves are the best -
fit modelled values for Q based on the Hasselmann model and global mean
temperatures (PDF).
Variations in the speed of the earth's spin in the form of length of day may fire the imaginations of
curve -
fitters with graphs like this from Dickey et al (2011) matching Length of Day against global
temperature shorn of AGW.
And another question arising from your answer: Did you really choose your data periods in a way that there was the best
fit of your calculated
curves to the
temperature curve?
@ 183 it was shown that the global
temperature record does not immediately demonstrate a convincing BNO (R)(that is a «radiatively forced» version of Judith Curry's Big Natural Oscillation) but it was also asserted that applying some judicious
curve -
fitting would render any such a demonstration inconclusive.
The linear effects that ENSO and volcanic aerosols have on global
temperatures are well documented through a multitude of different analyses, including «
curve -
fitting».
Plug CO2 into a physical model — or God forbid do some
curve -
fitting of CO2 to
temperature — and watch this forum work itself into a lather about how that isn't doing Real Science.
Even if you detrend the dCO2 -
temperature curve (that means zero contribution to the trend), you will find the same
fit.
And you can see that the CO2rise / year
curve and the
temperature curve fits nicely from 1977 to 2008 except for the 0,5 ppm / year that the long term trend shifts over the 30 years.
Dan, I'm not sure which ~ 60 yr cycle Tamino is referring to, but if you are pursuing a line + cycle
curve -
fit for the instrumental
temperature record, you should know that an exponential + sine is a better
fit to temps than the line + sine model.
Fitting any type continuous
curve through long term
temperature does not reflect the earth's climate variations, thus is not an acceptable mathematical modeling technique.
Global
temperature curve fitting is boring and trivial, given free choice of parameters or french
curves.
First a roughly 60 full cycle like Akasofu, but here in a more complex host of networked physical features rather than just a
temperature curve fit.
Seems to me that the AGW
curve is a better
fit to the
temperature record than F3 - SAW.
@ER: Global
temperature curve fitting is boring and trivial, given free choice of parameters or french
curves.
There is absolutely no error analysis, and all those spaghetti graphs are the modeler's estimate of what happens to their model once they fiddle the parameters to
fit the
temperature curves and they change the initial conditions of the time development!
It is my understanding that he derived these results from his knowledge of the infrared properties of carbon dioxide and water vapour (and not by
curve fitting to observations, though he had also carried out his own estimates of changes in global
temperature.)
However, looking at the natural climate /
temperature indicator of July sea ice extent reconstructed back to 1870 a smoothed - line
fit starts to
curve downward at about in the 1941 - 1970 period.
If manmade global warming is true the
temperature is going to keep rising, irregardless of past changes and whether you can
fit them with various
curves.
[Shaviv and Veizer, 2003] then arbitrarily change the time scale in the reconstruction to obtain yet another CRF
curve (the red
curve in Fig. 2 of [Shaviv and Veizer, 2003]-RRB-, which they call «fine tuned to best
fit the low - latitude
temperature».
The «
curve -
fitting» reveals the 60 - year 0.2 degree amplitude cycle that the skeptics are so excited about, but also shows that the AMO lags the land
temperature in this frequency range.
We thus find that there is no significant correlation of the CRF
curve from Shaviv's model and the
temperature curve of Veizer, even after one of the four CRF peaks was arbitrarily shifted by 40 m.y. to improve the
fit to the
temperature curve.
The reason given in Briffa 2001 for their selection of a certain reconstruction is discussed: >> > The selection of a single reconstruction of the ALL
temperature series is clearly somewhat arbitrary... The method that produces the best
fit in the calibration period is principal component regression... << >> ``... we note that the 1450s were much cooler in all of the other (i.e., not PCA regression) methods of producing this
curve...» << <
Your later explanation that the models have been tuned to
fit the global
temperature curve (reiterated in a comment by Greg Goodman on March 23, 2012 at 3:30 pm), is likewise incorrect.
You simply can not predict that
temperatures are going to get colder based upon a model which is simply a mathematical
fit of semi-arbitrary
curves.
Webby —
fits a
curve that is circular reasoning and finally discovers that ENSO influences surface
temperature..
However, Vahrenholt's statement is based on
curve fitting applied to a finite time series of (local)
temperatures.
Granted, the «great climate shift» of 76 - 77 occurred as well about this time, and many would say that warm period of the PDO is really the caused of the warming in the late 20th century, but it would be interesting to hear your rationale for choosing the early 1950's as the beginning of your measurement period for looking for anthropogenic effects, as from 1950 to about 1980, we have no need of an anthropogenic explanation, as the length of the solar cycle can
fit the
temperature curve quite well.
The suggestion that recent warming is anthropogenic due to divergence from a simple 60/20 year
curve fit over a mere 100 years ignores prior divergence from both competing models of distantly past
temperature, one being a hockey stick that shows a slow decline instead of incline prior 1850 and the other showing two similar «non-cyclical» spikes in the Roman and medieval periods.
Correlation is not causation; all L&S have demonstrated in their unphysical
curve fitting exercise is a correlation between their cycles and global
temperature.
It merely smoothes the historical
temperature curve from ENSO short term effects in a manner Judith approved of (when it had been performed by Kosaka and Xie) and the result is completely independent of the underlying
fitted curve that you traced.
This will clearly result in more papers trying to explain this fact on subjects such as climate sensitivity, as well as whether or not CFCs caused more warming than originally thought, radiation of heat into space as earth's effective
temperature increases, and whether the saturation of absorption of EMR by CO2 in the atmosphere actually
fits the logrithmic
curve.
In fact, it is readily shown that the statistics of
temperature fit obtained using the abstracted flux
curve are superior to your assumption of a quadratic in
temperature / straight line in flux.
An alternative that ventures into «
curve -
fitting» would be to
fit a linear regression to the UAH
temperatures being used.
It boils down to there being a lot of noise from things like solar and volcanoes, and superimposed on that greenhouse gases and within the existing uncertainty it's not that hard to pick and choose your forcings and climate sensitivity to come up with something that
fits the actual
temperature curve quite well.
But approaching the question of discernable
temperature anomalies and trends and correlations with human behaviour with
curve fitting... and then to bog down in arguments about whether it is statistically valid to do so... does take the eye off physics arguments and is just sooo missing the point.