How is that any different in the end
than a church body that has an over-riding agenda that wishes to silence all others?
Not exact matches
I don't think that its feasible to expect everyone to follow NFP, though I'm personally a huge proponent and believe women need more education on their
bodies and menstrual cycles, and condoms while not «moral» persay or in line with the
church's teaching are a much better option
than hormonal birth control or Plan B as they are simply a barrier method not an abortificant.
You probably know more
than you think, and you can use that knowledge to help the
Church and
Body of Christ in ways that others simply can not.
Just as at last summer's Lambeth conference (the decennial meeting of the world's Anglican bishops), there was a strongly expressed desire to grow closer together as a global communion, to become a genuine
church marked by common confession and discernment, rather
than a mere federation of autonomous local
bodies.
'» If by days, we understand years and by sanctuary, the
church,
than cleansed, Miller thought, «we may reasonably suppose means that complete redemption from sin, both soul and
body, after the resurrection when Christ comes the second time «without sin unto salvation.
But I think that if you re-read the entire post, you will see that I am not saying that Jesus calls people to leave the
Church (His Body), but rather, that Jesus might be calling some members of His Body to be the church in a way that looks different than the Sunday morning activity of sitting in a pew and listening to a s
Church (His
Body), but rather, that Jesus might be calling some members of His
Body to be the
church in a way that looks different than the Sunday morning activity of sitting in a pew and listening to a s
church in a way that looks different
than the Sunday morning activity of sitting in a pew and listening to a sermon.
Beyond the considerable
body of research that has emerged in the past three decades which demonstrates that women played a far more generous role in the early
Church than perhaps Neuhaus has imagined, my own Wesleyan holiness tradition has apparently escaped his ecumenical vision as well for it was already ordaining women in the nineteenth century.
But if you don't champion the place of the arts within the
Body of Christ, if you don't encourage young Christians to pursue the calling God has put on their hearts, if you don't train up your creative troops to stand and fight, then why on earth would you — would we — expect to see the
Church being anything other
than routed in the world of entertainment?
Community belonging and being a member of the
Body of Christ is so much more
than church attendance and membership, and too often, we've forgotten that, or we act like it isn't true.
-
Church is More
than Bodies, Bucks, & Bricks - Put Service Back into the
Church Service - The Death and Resurrection of the
Church - Finding
Church
As a result, even our pastor is starting to realize that what started out as «a class» to have a beginning and ending point, is now a
body of believers who don't want to leave the gathering, but to continue growning in a much more comfortable, meaningful setting
than they have been used to in the
church - building - lecture - learned way of doing things.
When I talk to my good friend who is a very conservative Catholic who views taking communion as sacred and every crumb is representative of Christ's
body and not one crumb will drop... then compare it to how we do it at
church... everyone ripping bread from the same loaf, crumbs everywhere, kids spilling the «wine»... does it really matter... is one more right
than the other... one upholds
church law on how communion will be performed versus our laid back version.
Already there are more Mormons
than Presbyterians; by conservative estimates, the LDS
church, as the Utah
body is often called, will alone have upward of 4.5 million members when its sesquicentennial Hosanna Shout rings out.
Being the whole
body of Christ, the
church includes more
than Roman Catholics.
I mean, obviously, to support those who think of the future usefulness of these
bodies, and of their federative structures, in «gathered -
church» more
than in «churchly» terms — at that juncture I agree with Dean Kelley (Why Conservative
Churches Are Growing [Harper & Row, 1972]-RRB- To put this concretely, let me offer just one example.
I saw God more active there
than in any other
church I have ever visited, and experienced the love of Jesus and the
Body of Christ in tangible ways.
This side of the kingdom of God, the human destiny of communion is realized more purely in the
Church, the
body of Christ,
than in the state, where it is disfigured by human self «love and lust for dominion.
Not only were these
churches leveling off from the heady gains of the postwar revival era (the main Presbyterian
bodies from 1940 to 1960 had gained adherents at more
than twice the rate of the preceding 20 years), but just as important, even more
than before they were «losing» members and potential members because the regions in which they were strongest were «losing» population.
One frequently cited bar graph has been used to suggest, for the decade 1965 - 75, a severe diminution of seven mainline Protestant
bodies by contrast both with their gains in the preceding ten years and with the continuing growth of selected conservative
churches (see Jackson W. Carroll et al., Religion in America, 1950 to the Present [Harper & Row, 19791, p. 15) The gap in growth rates for 1965 - 75, as shown on that graph, is more
than 29 percentage points (an average loss in the oldline denominations of 8.9 per cent against average gains among the conservatives of 20.5 per cent) This is indeed a substantial difference, but it does not approach the difference in growth rates recorded for the same religious groups in the 1930s, when the discrepancy amounted to 62 percentage points.
With respect to
church bodies, my premise is that, given our present ecclesial and social circumstances, the issue of authority will serve more to unify the
churches than to divide them.
But when it comes to the nature of the
Church body and its internal, familial relations, we need to ask the question now more
than ever.
I think keeping ideals in mind is very good to keep us humble and hungering for more, but the risk is that people then appoint themselves apostles and
church planters to the
body of christ global and defend their expression of
church as touching on gods purpose more
than anyone else.
There is more important stuff
than what a woman does with her
body, if the
church would actually go out and try to do some good rather
than try to regain control and FIXATE on this one issue, they would be a lot better off, imo.
I've recently finished fifteen years outside the
Church, being detoxed from all the paraphenalia and the religiosity, and one of the main things I have learned is that people * outside * the
Church seem to know more about the faults of said
body of people,
than the
Church people themselves.
Some would say niche
churches are an excellent outreach, others would argue they dilute the gospel and look more like exclusive clubs
than the
body of...
Protestantism made impossible a single ecclesiastical structure for Western Europe, but even had the outward unity of the
Church in Western Europe been preserved, it is hard to believe that the Popes, as the spokesmen for that comprehensive
body, would have had more voice in international affairs
than they actually possessed or that a more effective unity of culture would have been preserved.
And, after reading your «
Church is More Than Bodies, Bucks, and Bricks», I have a better understanding of the dissatisfaction I have felt for years with «church&r
Church is More
Than Bodies, Bucks, and Bricks», I have a better understanding of the dissatisfaction I have felt for years with «
church&r
church».
He maintained that there was no other remedy
than exclusion to preserve the faith of the community, «When they are vomited out, then the
body finds relief; likewise, when the wicked leave, then the
Church finds relief.»
So rather
than criticize other people, or other
churches, for not being like us, we should look at them as different members of our one
body.
We argue for the bodily resurrection of Christ, but the
body of Christ's resurrection is none other
than the
body of Christ which is the
church, understood as that emergent community of love guided by the dynamic activity of Christ's Spirit.
I know of a synod of a
church body which, wishing to put the matter of financial support of the «program» of the
church on a less obviously allocated basis
than characterizes the property tax office of the municipality, came up with a «fresh» idea: each should give as the Lord had prospered him — the synod called it the «Grace system»!
The
Church is its Lord's
Church, and as He seemed to enjoy the company of confessed sinners rather
than of professed righteous men, so the
Church, as His
Body, does the same.
They thought the truth of the
Church's teaching about conjugal morality and fertility regulation could be presented in a humane and personalistic way: one that acknowledged both the moral duty to plan one's family and the demands of self - sacrifice in conjugal life; one that affirmed methods of fertility - regulation that respected the
body's dignity and its built - in moral «grammar;» one that that recognized the moral equality and equal moral responsibility of men and women, rather
than leaving the entire burden of fertility - regulation on the wife.
In addition, we, more
than the early
church, regard the
body as significant primarily as a «locus of sexuality,» whereas «for most of Western history the
body was understood primarily as the locus of biological process.»
The most significant deductions from these figures are, first, that more
than half of the people of the United States are now members of religious
bodies — in the neighborhood of 58 per cent — and second, that growth in
church membership reveals a steady increase, not only numerically but in proportion to the general population.
The bishop, invested with the fullness of the sacrament of Orders, is «the steward of the grace of the supreme priesthood,» above all in the Eucharist, which he himself offers, or ensures that it is offered, from which the
Church ever derives its life and on which it thrives -LSB-...] For «the sharing in the
body and blood of Christ has no other effect
than to accomplish our transformation into that which we receive.»
To him was given more revelation about the
church (and when I say
church I mean the
body of Christ)
than anyone else.
Why privilege contemporary evangelical and Pentecostal religious
bodies as somehow closer
than «
church» types of religious organization to the original meaning of Christianity?
In this book, author and blogger Jeremy Myers shows that
church is more
than bodies, bucks, and bricks.
I believe this has been one of the factors for our conceiving of the «
church» as an institution, rather
than focusing on its true nature, which I believe to be the
body of Christ as manifest in Christians.
I would argue for a stronger doctrine of the
church than I find in Niebuhr, perhaps a more catholic one, one that emphasizes the
church as the
body of Christ - the
church as the one sacrament from which all the particular sacraments are derived, as Karl Rahner put it.
Yes, «
church» today more closely resembles corporations
than it does the
body of Christ that Jesus wants us to be.
In a sense this is an ideal rather
than an actual description of the
churches, for Christ's
body is broken by many divisions.
Yet the symbol of the
Church as the
body of Christ implies more
than our mutual dependence and responsibilities, vital as these are.
When the
Church speaks about guilt, can it be no more
than the custodian of the law, ever sanctioning the common fears of society and incorporating in its
body whatever is left of the restraints and inhibitions of the society of the past?
Some would say niche
churches are an excellent outreach, others would argue they dilute the gospel and look more like exclusive clubs
than the
body of... More
Buddhism speaks of what is sometimes rather loosely translated as the
Church, but this approximates more nearly to the monastic groups of Christians
than to the entire
body of believers, lay, clerical, monastic, and non-monastic, as is the case in Christianity.
One might perhaps be justified in inferring that Ratzinger senior has become more favorable
than Ratzinger junior to the
Body of Christ as an image of the
Church.
Obviously there are social benefits that come as a result of gathering together, but a
church that is so inwardly focused that it resembles a club more
than a
body of believers seeking to incarnate God's will in the world, is not something I'm looking for.
If I had to distill it to one issue (which is almost impossible to do fairly or accurately, seeking to describe such a diverse
body), I would say it's that the visible
church seems to care more about ideas
than people.