Of course alternatives to fossil fuels cost more
than fossil fuels do, provided you neglect the environmental impact of fossil fuels.
Not exact matches
Making Solar Cheaper
Than Fossil Fuels In the long run, all this wrangling with utilities won't
do Rive much good if he can't beat them on price.
``... to wean our economy off its overreliance on high - cost carbon
fuels...» And how
do you propose to
do this with
fossil fuels representing more
than 80 % of the energy budget?
It also was the only U.S. oil major to
do more
than dabble in energy not derived from
fossil fuels.
-- Green Party gubernatorial candidate Howie Hawkins, who also attended the rally, says the Green Party wants to get off
fossil fuels 20 years earlier
than Nixon
does, by 2030.
«Divesting from
fossil fuel stocks doesn't solve the problem, but it sends a huge message that government and its citizens should not be investing in the type of
fuel that we know increase the problems we face rather
than decrease and reverse the outcome of climate change.»
«It's clear to me that no technology will
do more
than nuclear to reduce our use of
fossil fuels.»
«When it comes to life cycle greenhouse gas emissions, wind and solar energy provide a much better greenhouse gas balance
than fossil - based low carbon technologies, because they
do not require additional energy for the production and transport of
fuels, and the technologies themselves can be produced to a large extend with decarbonized electricity,» states Edgar Hertwich, an industrial ecologist from Yale University who co-authored the study.
The earths heat is just a few KM's further down
than coal and oil,
does nt the use of
fossil fuels seem stupid by comparison?
A study projects 130 future cancer deaths from the meltdowns at the reactors in Fukushima last year, but
does that suggest nuclear power is safer
than fossil fuel alternatives?
We are never going to go back to having 50 percent of America farming but we definitely need more
than 1 percent of America farming if we're going to
do [with] out vast quantities of
fossil fuel, which we can no longer for many reasons continue to
do, and I think that will be altogether healthy, and I think there'll be lots of people who will enjoy it immensely.
The burning of Indonesia's tropical peatlands contributed more greenhouse gases to the atmosphere
than the vast majority of countries
did from
fossil fuels in 2015.
In India, Rogers discovered that carbon offset ventures were
doing more harm
than good because carbon offset money discourages certain countries from investing in wind or solar power and continues their reliance on
fossil fuels.
If it takes 100 plus years to double the concentration of CO2, and if the equilibrium response is a 2C increase (Pierrehumbert, «Principles of Planetary Climate», p 623), and if the increased CO2 produces increased vegetation and crop growth, then the present rate of development of non-
fossil fuel power and
fuel generation is more appropriate
than an Apollo type project or attempt to get rid of all
fossil fuel use by 2050 starting now as fast as can be
done.
Failure to
do that amounts to a massive public subsidy to
fossil fuels, which is why they appear to be (but actually are not) «cheaper»
than renewable energy.
What I find ironic is that it is his can -
do optimism that is in this case working against our ability to
do something about our dependence on
fossil fuels and the climate change that this dependence is resulting in, that is, switching to alternate energy, preserving modern civilization and the world economy beyond Peak Oil and Peak Coal, preventing climate change from becoming such a huge problem that it destroys that the world economy — and more
than likely leads to a series of highly destructive wars over limited resources.
AC at 78 wrote: «If there are bubbles of methane here and there boosting the local CH4 concentration spectacularly but which on the global level amount to less
than 3 % of the effect of CO2 emissions from
fossil fuels, what
does it matter really?»
As you know, the largely underplayed message of the I.P.C.C. report, which I wrote about but didn't get much coverage elsewhere, is that the atmosphere and climate won't notice the difference between a Gore - style immediate emissions freeze or a pedal - to - the - metal
fossil -
fuel party for more
than 20 years.
To intentionally misquote Mr. McGuire in the»67 film The Graduate, «There's a great future in bioplastics,» but the problem is that some bioplastics can contain petro - based plastics as well, which might reduce the overall amount of
fossil fuel - based plastics, while inadvertently creating more waste by allowing consumers to treat these bioplastics more casually
than they
do traditional plastics.
If there are bubbles of methane here and there boosting the local CH4 concentration spectacularly but which on the global level amount to less
than 3 % of the effect of CO2 emissions from
fossil fuels, what
does it matter really?
[Andy Revkin — They «recognize» and «promote» the importance of energy sources other
than fossil fuels, but don't specify any steps to accelerate a transition to a renewable energy and away from unfettered combustion of coal and oil.
Renewable energy currently tends to have higher up - front costs
than fossil fuel - based power systems
do, but in the long run equipment depreciation is lower and the
fuel (sunlight and wind) is free, thus any honest cost analysis over the lifetime of the power - generating equipment will conclude that solar is cheapest, wind second, nuclear third, and
fossil fuels are unworkable in the long run due to the global warming issue.
-- Every human appears to have 10, 20 or more horses yoked with him (the primemovers that burn
fossil fuels and make our current lives comfortable) which consume oxygen and spew out far more carbon - dioxide
than man would
do alone.
Demonstrating that the overall environmental damage is less
than that from coal
does not imply that gas production and use is cost - free, and the sooner we reduce our dependence on
fossil fuel sources of energy of all kinds the better.
However, it is important to keep in mind that we might easily more
than double it if we really don't make much effort to cut back (I think the current estimated reserves of
fossil fuels would increase CO2 by a factor of like 5 or 10, which would mean a warming of roughly 2 - 3 times the climate sensitivity for doubling CO2 [because of the logarithmic dependence of the resulting warming to CO2 levels]-RRB-... and CO2 levels may be able to fall short of doubling if we really make a very strong effort to reduce emissions.
The energy storage density in these solutions is much less
than fossil fuels and with what energy source
do you manufacture the H2?
Hank (356), I haven't yet read the paper but a couple of thoughts from your excerpt don't seem intuitively obvious: 1) why would CO2 coming from burning
fossil fuel be more forcing
than CO2 from any other source.
There is more
fossil fuel carbon available
than the size of the terrestrial biosphere, including soil carbon, so I didn't bother with it.
Just like the Europeans have managed to use 50 % less
fossil fuels than we
do to create their equally good lifestyles, Californians have lead the nation in living the good life on less electricity.
The potential for efficiency remains enormous, and given the likely improvements in technology and changes in societal norms over the next century which it will take us to
do the right thing, we are likely to be able to cut
fossil fuel use further
than most people imagine possible, even if renewables don't become commercially competitive (which wind is already, and solar is in certain situations).
It really points to very serious widespread problems in the U.S. academic and journalistic professions — you can't
do research on renewable energy in the U.S. academic system, because of
fossil fuel influence, and you can't get honest coverage of renewable energy initiatives in the U.S. press, also because of undue influence by vested interests — and more often
than not these days, those vested interests are in finance, not in industry.
At least that way you can convince smokers that cigarettes
do not cause cancer rather
than trying to convince NY Times readers that burning
fossil fuels has no impact on Earth's climate.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't reduce our dependence on
fossil fuels as soon as possible, be it more for geopolitical reasons and pollution reduction
than for fear for a runaway warming...
«Beneath Siberia's snow may lie geologic formations that hold vast deposits of
fossil fuels, as well as mineral resources» as if they didn't have drills that get through ice and like Canada, prefer to work on ice
than on mud.
Their critics say their stance, however well intentioned, will produce the real delays, given how much can be
done now simply by cutting energy waste with tools already on the shelf — ranging from strengthening efficiency standards to eliminating billions of dollars in persistent
fossil -
fuel subsidies that continue to make coal and oil much cheaper
than they really are when all their hidden costs are revealed.
This would serve multiple purposes, of (a) weaning us from dependence on foreign oil and simultaneously depleting terror - exporting countries of their revenue stream, (b) reducing other pollutants besides CO2, (c) encouraging a more gradual and less economically disastrous transition from an economony based on a finite resource, (d) slow global warming, (e) move us in the direction of a VAT tax rather
than an income tax (actually, personally I don't think e is such a great thing, but as many conversative groups favor it, I don't see why they would oppose a revenue - neutral tax on
fossil fuels.
The radiative forcing right after the release would be similar to that from
fossil fuel CO2 by the end of the century, but subsiding quickly rather
than continuing to grow as business - as - usual CO2
does.
We need to
do a «full court press» to switch from
fossil fuels and nuclear (which also releases heat into water on a large scale, and supports nuclear military programs), using existing and near - commercialization battery, solar and wind technology, and design systems to cost - effectively convert the existing 600 - million - plus vehicle fleet rather
than waiting for replacement.
If climate sensitivity is higher
than thought as so much evidence keeps suggesting recently, when
do actually take this seriously and just stop using
fossil fuels on a personal and general level?
If a policy prescription
does not account for the real complexity in the climate system, and real gaps in knowledge about aspects of global warming that matter most, is it likely that the public and lawmakers will pursue a big transformation of lifestyles and economic norms to curb CO2 emissions in a growing world still more
than 85 percent dependent on burning
fossil fuels to drive economies?
Nader said, «We
do not need nuclear power... We have a far greater amount of
fossil fuels in this country
than we're owning up to... the tar sands... oil out of shale... methane in coal beds...» Sierra Club consultant Amory Lovins said, «Coal can fill the real gaps in our
fuel economy with only a temporary and modest (less
than twofold at peak) expansion of mining.»
However, you don't want to argue for a rational solution — i.e. cheap nuclear power (which also happens to be 10 to 100 times safer
than our currently accepted main source of electricity generation,
fossil fuel) and also happens to be a near zero emission technology (in fact much lower
than renewables given they need
fossil fuel backup, and given solar needs about 10 times as much material per TWh on an LCA basis).
Rather
than promote the solar revolution in the US, the
fossil fuel industry «is
doing all that it can to stop its growth.»
If they
do, rather
than calling for the unrealistic «end of the
fossil fuel era,» they'd call on the «climate aid» to be spent on «improved public health, education and economic development,» as recommended by noted economist Bjorn Lomborg.
«The
fossil fuel industry and its shills are willing to exploit any crisis and go to any lengths in their effort to extract more dirty
fuels and dismantle critical climate policies,» said Erich Pica, president of Friends of the Earth U.S. «Rather
than promoting dirty
fossil fuels like tar sands and fracked natural gas, Obama and Barroso should be
doing everything they can to keep these
fuels in the ground and help avert climate catastrophe.»
(2a: Why
does solar power cost so much more
than power from
fossil fuels?)
When it
does, more
than $ 20 trillion worth of
fossil fuel reserves will become stranded assets and the companies» value will plummet.
For example, in Germany, a leader in the energy transition, renewable energy industries already employ more workers
than the long - standing
fossil fuel and nuclear industries
do.
Mandates and subsidies for
fossil -
fuel intensive biofuels such as corn - derived ethanol are so large that eliminating or reducing them would almost certainly
do more
than a carbon tax to curb these
fuels» artificial price advantage.
The
fossil fuel companies will pass the cost on to customers, but the person
doing better
than average in limiting
fossil fuel use will make money.