It takes a lack of intelligence to believe that a magical sky fairy impregnated a virgin with himself so he could die and
then go to heaven and hang out with himself.
This third group go to hell, scream in the flames for a short while, and
then go to heaven having been punished.
Not exact matches
And if it's only about people admitting their sinfulness and
then gutting it out until we
go to heaven,
then I suspect that some people just want
to see people be humiliated.
Wonder how many impressionable young boys were told
to bend over and shut up in the name of Christ or threatened if they told with «If you tell
then you won't
go to heaven.»
Doing that in every flight trip I take make me at rest that if any thing happened on the way at least
then if died will not
go waste but would face the mercy of God on my soul... Because there only in the upper
heavens or mid oceans you have nothing but the mercy of God and nothing in hand
to relay upon trying
to save self...!!!
and for the first 96,000 years of this experience,
heaven watches with folded arms, us
go through all of this, with indifference, without pity, and
then around 4,000 years ago decides «Gee, it's time
to intervene»».
He is God and Lord alone and he (Jesus) will love you for all eternity whether you choose
to go to heaven with him or
to hell with the devil, its up
to you, but I guess if you don't believe in Jesus Christ
then I guess you don't believe that Satan exist either.
But if you need empty threats of hell or equally empty promises of
heaven in order
to be a decent human being,
then you
go on ahead.
It doesn't matter how many Muslims follow the «true» path of Islam, but as long as a significant number of Muslims believe that murder is good way
to go to heaven,
then they will have a PR problem.
What, that god sent himself in human form
to earth
to live and die, so that he could live again and
then rejoin himself in
heaven, so that the creations, who apparently have original sin because a talking snake convinced a rib lady
to eat an apple thousands of years ago, could choose
to believe in Zombie Jesus and if they did they would
go to heaven but if they didn't believe in Zombie Jesus they would fry in Hell forever, regardless of how good a life they lived on Earth?
But, if there is a
heaven, and I see no indication that there is,
then I believe you are right about who gets
to go there.
By extension, evolving from less advanced life forms is distasteful
to those same individuals, as that necessitates a point in evolution at which humans are not really humans at all in the modern sense, which
then brings up problems such as «do slugs
go to heaven?»
IF
heaven is so wonderful, and our mortal life is just for a tiny instant of time compared
to all eternity in this fabulous
heaven,
then I'm ready
to go there right now.
If it changes your faith...
then either you are looking at it in a different way than I do, or you place too much stock in who gets into
heaven and who
goes to hell.
sam stone... The Great Commission demands that Christian
go out... Matthew 28:18 - 20 «
Then Jesus came
to them and said, «All authority in
heaven and on earth has been given
to me.
And if that's what Jesuss said, that if one doesn't have faith in Him, one doesn't
go to heaven,
then that's it.
And if I thought otherwise I was rebellious, more than likely demon possessed, and if I had any plans of «
going to heaven'
then I needed
to repent of my evil questioning thoughts and return
to the «church».
If Judas was
going to heaven,
then what Jesus said would have been incorrect (Jesus doesn't make mistakes, right?)
Only living persons are
to be baptized, for just before Jesus ascension
to heaven, he gave the command
to his eleven faithful apostles: «
Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them... teaching
then to observe all the things I have commanded you.»
Then I asked him, «If a man is a «drunk» and dies as a «drunk, will he
go to heaven.»
historical Jesus, lmfao... show me any historical evidence of jesus... let's start with his remains... they don't exist - your explanation, he rose
to the
heavens... historical evidence - no remains, no proof of existence (not a disproof either, just not a proof)...
then let's start with other historians writing about the life of Jesus around his time or shortly after, as outside neutral observers... that doesn't exist either (not a disproof again, just not a proof)... we can
go on and on... the fact is, there is not a single proving evidence of Jesus's life in an historical context... there is no existence of Jesus in a scientific context either (virgin birth... riiiiiight)... it is just written in a book, and stuck in your head... you have a right
to believe in what you must... just don't base it on history or science... you believe because you do... it is your right... but try not
to put reason into your faith; that's when you start sounding unreasonable, borderline crazy...
Christians do not
then force others
to believe anything, but rather
go to their homes as Jesus commanded his genuine disciples to do, seeking to discuss, reason and hopefully teach them about our Creator, Jehovah God and his kingdom, for Jesus said just before he ascended to heaven: «Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations... teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.&raqu
go to their homes as Jesus commanded his genuine disciples
to do, seeking
to discuss, reason and hopefully teach them about our Creator, Jehovah God and his kingdom, for Jesus said just before he ascended
to heaven: «
Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations... teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.&raqu
Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations... teaching them
to observe all the things I have commanded you.»
Then, suddenly it was decided that there was no purgatory and the babies
went to heaven.
That said, there are eye witnesses that
went to their deaths saying that they saw Jesus die on a cross, and saw him again days later alive,
then later still saw him raise up into
heaven, all the while proclaiming he is the Son of God sent
to do that for others sins so they could be saved.
So could you honestly say that you don't think anyone has ever become religious, especially much later on in life as the end isn't far off (and even statistics that common sense would tell you should trend the opposite way, ie, someone who's
gone 70, 75 years not believing in god or
heaven, decides
then to become a devote Christian?
Then I'm gonna ask god for forgiveness and spend eternity in
heaven.
So here is my question, more for the religious than anyone else: If you know you will
go to heaven because the doctrine your foliow says you will (i.e. christians declaring jesus is their lord and savior, or muslims believing in Allah and Muhammed)
then why is there any sadness at a wake or a funeral at all?
It says nothing about a person who got saved and
then later decided
to live in unrepentant sin and tell God that they no longer believe in him and don't want
to go to heaven.
I love Allah and everyone I swear I want
to see everyone who reads this in
heaven, don't get mad do me a favor and please just like we Muslims respect ur book respect ours,
go and find a Quran translated in English and read read at least the first 10 pages
then listen
to a reciter his name Is sheikh al maher al Miakli,
then ask ur self why am I hear if u will not sacrifice for god (Allah) s sake why did he Jesus say or sins our forgiven and let us do whatever we want here without purpose and give us
heaven.
The problem with the Peter comment is that Peter didn't have the holy spirit cause Christ hadn't died he was still there Christ had
to die
to give us the spirit if u
go ahead a little bit
to when Peter is delivered up and asked if he knows Christ he says he does because the spirit can not deny itself because they are all 3 one and if you don't believe in the Trinity
then you don't believe in God 1 John 5:7 says For there are three that bear record in
heaven, the father, the word, and the holy ghost: and these three are one.
Since the gospel is about way more than just receiving eternal life but is also about how God's people are
to live their lives in this world,
then the goal of living out the gospel is not primarily
to rescue people from hell so they can
go to heaven when they die.
There is another passage where Jesus and disciples wanted
to enter a Samaritan village — James and John
went ahead, but came back and said the people do not want
to «invite» them in —
then they said
to Jesus — send fire from
heaven and burn their village.
He came from
heaven to earth and
then went from earth
to heaven.
Then he said, «I have a hard time believing someday God's
going to decide who gets into
heaven or who
goes to hell based on whether or not they believed the right thing about a few ideas.
I thought: He is «not now that strength which in old days moved
heaven and earth,» when, for several years, he accompanied his old blind father
to the synagogue and, for an hour, whispered in his ear every word of the prayers the old man did not know by heart,
then going off
to another service
to fulfill his own duty
to pray.
Go out and murder someone, and then come join our for - profit religion in prison, we'll accept you and you will go to heave
Go out and murder someone, and
then come join our for - profit religion in prison, we'll accept you and you will
go to heave
go to heaven.
It's easier
to go to church and kneel, pray, sing, kneel pray sing etc. and
then believe that you are
going to heaven, than
to create a real and realistic
heaven in reality that you can take with you wherever you may
go in death.
Then he doesn't love us that much he just leaves it to luck like if the child is born in a good family christan family then chances are very high that he will go to heaven but to a bad family and also god knows better than me that if he destroyed satun and did whatever i mentioned in my commented the world would have been a outstanding place to live in if god can send his son to suffer then why not destroy satun or give him life sentence in hell or even better why din't he paid attention while making Adam and Eve and even if he din't why din't he renoved the tree of knowlage from the garden of Eden then he woundn't have to tell Adam and Eve not to eat any fruit from that
Then he doesn't love us that much he just leaves it
to luck like if the child is born in a good family christan family
then chances are very high that he will go to heaven but to a bad family and also god knows better than me that if he destroyed satun and did whatever i mentioned in my commented the world would have been a outstanding place to live in if god can send his son to suffer then why not destroy satun or give him life sentence in hell or even better why din't he paid attention while making Adam and Eve and even if he din't why din't he renoved the tree of knowlage from the garden of Eden then he woundn't have to tell Adam and Eve not to eat any fruit from that
then chances are very high that he will
go to heaven but
to a bad family and also god knows better than me that if he destroyed satun and did whatever i mentioned in my commented the world would have been a outstanding place
to live in if god can send his son
to suffer
then why not destroy satun or give him life sentence in hell or even better why din't he paid attention while making Adam and Eve and even if he din't why din't he renoved the tree of knowlage from the garden of Eden then he woundn't have to tell Adam and Eve not to eat any fruit from that
then why not destroy satun or give him life sentence in hell or even better why din't he paid attention while making Adam and Eve and even if he din't why din't he renoved the tree of knowlage from the garden of Eden
then he woundn't have to tell Adam and Eve not to eat any fruit from that
then he woundn't have
to tell Adam and Eve not
to eat any fruit from that tree
If only born - again Christians
go to heaven,
then the piles of suitcases and bags of human hair displayed at the Holocaust Museum represent thousands upon thousands of men, women, and children suffering eternal agony and the hands of angry God.
Ok but can god take away a person from hell and put him in
heaven and if god loves us so much
then why he doesn't destroy satun or put him in prison forever and why doesn't he tells the holy spirit
to forgive whatever any person says just like him and Jesus i want
to know thst but i noticed in all your replies except one that you were telling me everything i was asking except this in short if i say «he allows us
to hate him» and i also want
to know that if a person is sent in hell for his sins
then will he
go back
to heaven after completing his punishment or stay there forever and also will any person who have commited the unforgivable sin one day be freed and allowed
to go to heven or be reborn on Earth and if god has infinite love for us why don't he force us
to belive in Jesus just before dying and
then as he
goes to heven show Jesus
to him and
then give him a rebirth as soon as his turn comes and
then countinue this becaude
going to heaven would be better much more than
going to hell especialy for those who have commited the unforgivable sin
Then you can have Protestants or Shintos, who love their neighbor, and God as they understand him, and they
go to heaven.
I think the point of the cartoon was that there is a belief among most Christians (Catholic and Protestant alike) that there is something special about Jesus the man that is other - worldly and
goes far beyond just a man with a good message — and if you «take in» Jesus
then you get certain special privileges (like
going to heaven).
Jesus: Dad all these rich guys showed up and wanted into
heaven, I told them it would be easier for a camel
to go through the eye of a needle God: Well what did they do
then son?
I think Jesus was vegan as in Eden and
Heaven and so if we are
to make
heaven on earth
then we must make vegan paths, but I do suspend my vegan choice sometimes because Jesus is on the menu at churches and so I
go and eat him just incase it helps.
Then the kingdom of
heaven shall be likened
to ten virgins who took their lamps and
went out
to meet the bridegroom.
The basis of your belief system appears
to be that, you will
go to a place of eternal fire and torture, unless you accept that 2000 years ago god sent a piece of himself
to Earth in human form (Jesus) knowing in advance that this Jesus would live, be crucified, died,
then come alive again,
then ascend
to heaven to rejoin himself, and that this was the only way that humans could be cleansed of the evil that is inherent in them because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake
to eat an apple.
Try reading the advice that Jesus gave
to the rich young ruler when asked how he could enter
heaven to which Jesus replied, «
Go, sell all that you own, give it
to the poor,
then come and follow me.
If you teach that people can only choose
heaven when God enables them
to, and it is God Himself who makes the decision not
to enable the doomed
to go to heaven,
then in fact He does choose some people for Gehenna.
Not sure i am convinced because how do you explain the verse an eye for an eye in the old testament there have always been consequences for wrong doing and stiill are for sin.If we believe the word
then that word is from God not satan.As far as satan is concerned he uses violence as his tools of trade he works on our fears and is limited
to robbing stealing and destroying he does nt have anything else.Violence confirms
to us that there is a spiritual battle
going on both on the earthly plane and in the heavenlys and the battle is over souls.The verse the kingdon of
heaven is expanding and violent people take it by force is referring
to that spiritual battle and as satan uses violence
to expand his dominion so does God use violence
to counter him.So what does he mean by that term for me i think it is saying that the the force of evil that satan uses or violence is overcome by a greater violence or force a more powerful one that being the Love of Christ.Through the cross we see that clearly portrayed and in our lives that very same battle is still happening right now for dominion be clear if we walk in the flkesh satan will have dominion over us but if we walk according
to the spirit and abide in Christ we have freedom from our old nature.and satan.He can oppose us but he wont be able
to influence us if we are in Christ.
I am tired of how people who believe in their own «gods» try
to shove religion down other peoples throat, what I mean is if your religion doen not let you support guns then don't support it but also don't try to change it for everyone else who doesn't see it your way, I don't go around asking for you all's religion to remove crosses from public view because I don't believe and to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGING
to shove religion down other peoples throat, what I mean is if your religion doen not let you support guns
then don't support it but also don't try to change it for everyone else who doesn't see it your way, I don't go around asking for you all's religion to remove crosses from public view because I don't believe and to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGI
then don't support it but also don't try
to change it for everyone else who doesn't see it your way, I don't go around asking for you all's religion to remove crosses from public view because I don't believe and to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGING
to change it for everyone else who doesn't see it your way, I don't
go around asking for you all's religion
to remove crosses from public view because I don't believe and to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGING
to remove crosses from public view because I don't believe and
to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGING
to remove the bible from public places (i.e. Hotels, Bookstores, etc.) so it can only be seen in their respective places of workship, Remember WE ALL ARE BORN ATHEIST, YOU ARE NOT BORN WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GOD, YOUR PARENTS HAVE
TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL, HEAVEN AND EARTH... THEN IT BEGING
TO TELL YOU THERE IS A GOD, A DEVIL,
HEAVEN AND EARTH...
THEN IT BEGI
THEN IT BEGINGS.