Valerie, prese to exprain... When Jeebus said that, there was no such
thing as a church.
Remember also that back at this time, there was no such
thing as church and state.
Not exact matches
Recently, I was talking to a few friends — really faithful folks who attend
church regularly and who, above all other
things, self - identify
as Christians — about the subject of unemployment.
Allen follows up about these newer, more unexpected enthusiasts, and Chaput suggests that maybe some of them «would prefer a
church that wouldn't have strict norms and ideas about the moral life and about doctrine, and they somehow interpret the pope's openness and friendliness
as being less concerned about those
things.
The effects of these
things stretch across the country
as well
as abroad so are we to stop building all Christian
churches everywhere?
They do not deny that Christ is in all
things head of the
Church, they've simply interposed the Pope
as his representative.
There were many evil
things done in the Name of Jesus Christ, but it is not really to be
as surprise, becaue Jesus said that the evil one, which is the devil, will plant his seeds in the midst of God's
church, meaning here «The Christendom».
I am glad I left when I did so
things did not get ugly
as I had a position of significant influence within the
church and I had no desire to tear it down.
ciroc2323, Suddenly the Separation of
Church and State is viewed
as a BAD
thing?
And the
Church teaches that the freedom of religion may not be infringed by government mandates that persons act contrary to what their consciences tell them about the truth of such
things as the sanctity of life, the dignity of marriage, and the reality of sex
as the basis of «gender.»
Maybe we can look at it
as a phase that many Christians from all demographics go through before a renewal, and that would be a good
thing, for since organized religion, hence dogma, doctrine, religious practices, etc., is the primary cause for parting ways, it is a wake up call for the Christian
church.
A polemicist might well have salty
things to say about this abdication of moral principles that Christians have held since the earliest days of the faith, but in Wilcox's mild and irenic diction the mainline
churches are simply «accommodationist,» espousing what he calls a «Golden Rule Christianity» that honors tolerance, kindness, and social justice
as paramount virtues.
Now the pressures of the sexual revolution are tempting the
Church to loosen her claim on the bodily act that Scripture consistently treats
as most deeply implicated in spiritual
things — sex.
Religion is the rosary, humming Latin songs, going to
Church (the act), and even
things as simple
as folding your hands while you pray.
My point, is that no matter what the
church says, he should have done the right
thing as a PERSON, allowed her to take communion, and provided her with comfort.
But
as you recognize, Adam, some
things are often not apparent until one is more involved in a
church.
BUT... if the
Church is going to claim and treat sexual deviance (if in fact that is what they believe it is) with such force over and against all other indiscretions, how do they justify that... and how isn't it hypocritical of them when they simply wink at other
things that are clearly outlined by Jesus» own words
as grievous.
As a future seminarian in the Episcopal
Church, it is the right
thing to repeal DADT.
But what happens when one of two
things occurs: when the LBGT person wants to be in ministry (and therefore their conduct becomes an issue) or they bring their partner along to
church and want to be accepted
as a couple?
In his great 1907 book, The Orthodox Eastern
Church, Adrian Fortescue observed that Photius was called, among other
things, illegitimate and an adulterer — «only the amenities of theological controversy,»
as Fortescue drily puts it.
As the media can and must move on to other things, so it is conceivable that in time institutions such as universities and churches too will put this behind the
As the media can and must move on to other
things, so it is conceivable that in time institutions such
as universities and churches too will put this behind the
as universities and
churches too will put this behind them.
If these CHRISTians,
as they like to be called, just stayed in their
churches, helped the poor, stopped spreading hate — the kinds of
things their boss said they should do, we wouldn't be bothered
as much.
In contrast to Orthodox «getting
things right» books, Everyday Saints depicts the
Church as people with warts and flaws through whom God nevertheless works for good.
The dioceses and the parish
churches have usually been held exempt by the courts, but general Catholic institutions, precisely
as they are not
churches, are increasingly being required to carry insurance that covers
things to which they object: abortion for their employees, for example.
I feel I can comment on the effect of the naked pastor's blog on me, and whether pastors can and should say these
things in general, but
as for whether or not it beneficial for the
church members of his
church, surely it is only for them to say, and perhaps not online..?
Now,
as you talk of UV light and water and oxygen (and yes, this is not my field of science), but I do care to read other hypothesis given forth to explain
things, before jumping to believe what a religious scripture or actually its
Church wants me to believe.
There is no such
thing as a «perfect
church»; but the Eastern Church has remained much closer to the foundational beliefs and practices of biblical and patristic beliefs and practices than the Latin / Western Church
church»; but the Eastern
Church has remained much closer to the foundational beliefs and practices of biblical and patristic beliefs and practices than the Latin / Western Church
Church has remained much closer to the foundational beliefs and practices of biblical and patristic beliefs and practices than the Latin / Western
ChurchChurch (es):
Writing
as a devil, he pointed out with grim savvy in The Screwtape Letters, «If a man can't be cured of churchgoing, the next best
thing is to send him all over the neighborhood looking for the
church that «suits him,» until he becomes a taster or connoisseur of
churches.»
The laws, the demands, the endless fight against those who do not believe
as you, all these
things lead toward the downfall of the
church.
Now, you are telling us that it's about the «proper order» of temporal, natural
things here in this world (family,
church) which,
as far
as you know, will cease when we get to heaven.
Among other
things, it is premised upon an individualistic notion of salvation that neglects what St. Paul describes
as the «mystery» of the continuing relationship between Israel and the
Church (see Romans 9 - 11).
We can debate the «were a Christian nation»
thing back and forth without getting anywhere, but to imply that the freedoms we have now came only from Christian roots ignores the rest of world history
as well
as the fact that its often been the
Church impeding civil liberties and progressive movements.
As it is, most churches plays some institutional game that is about rules and worship — and does not imply the importance of community and the focus of love in their community (as long as they do the Christian things that's good
As it is, most
churches plays some institutional game that is about rules and worship — and does not imply the importance of community and the focus of love in their community (
as long as they do the Christian things that's good
as long
as they do the Christian things that's good
as they do the Christian
things that's good).
Those
things in the
Church that can not be changed, because they are of the divinely ordered constitution of the
Church, must be reformed when necessary so that they contribute
as they ought to the mission.
It's with the village
as well
as the
church, and the whole village feels deeply aggrieved that this sort of
thing should happen.
First
Things and other independent publications,
as well
as individuals and voluntary associations within the
churches, may be
as political
as they wish or
as they deem prudent.
Of course, that Catholic culture was fading at exactly the moment the Land O» Lakes statement codified its necessity, and that left us only with
things like Land O» Lakes and its many imitations and successors: documents that define America's Catholic colleges
as institutions that exist fundamentally over against the
Church.
It's not a negation of truth or absolute truth, it's just a recognition that we might be
as confused over
things as our kin in the faith who chained up Bibles, burned the bones of reformers, tossed bombs into the basements of black
churches and burned crosses on the front yards of black people, who ignore the plight of the homeless and the poor while we struggle to decide between the 36 and 72 inch plasma screen tv.
If you pointed at individual
church congregations, that would be one
thing, but to paint,
as you do, most of the
church that way is dishonest.
and
as far
as church goes, social reasons are pretty much the only
thing keeping me around too...
Both the liturgical and theological traditions of the
Church present to us certain
things that must be said about God
as revealed in Christ Jesus.
Eph 1:22,23 - «And he put all
things under his feet and gave him
as head over all
things to the
church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.»
This story is simply something that the
church has no teachings, or story, these
things are not taught or discussed at
church as the
church has no political agenda presented from the pulpit, in classes or meetings.
The idea that leaving the
church as we know it will bring freedom is for me a difficult
thing to grasp.
I see duplication of effort, with denominations and individual
churches not working together; and the «not - invented - here» syndrome,
as very often the information or the
thing we are trying to produce is already being produced somewhere else.
(25) «Husbands, love your wives, just
as Christ also loved the
Church, and delivered Himself up for her, (26) that He might sanctify her, cleansing her in the bath of water by means of The Word; (27) IN ORDER THAT HE MIGHT PRESENT TO HIMSELF THE CHURCH IN ALL HER GLORY, NOT HAVING SPOT OR WRINKLE OR ANY SUCH THING, BUT THAT SHE MIGHT BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.»&
Church, and delivered Himself up for her, (26) that He might sanctify her, cleansing her in the bath of water by means of The Word; (27) IN ORDER THAT HE MIGHT PRESENT TO HIMSELF THE
CHURCH IN ALL HER GLORY, NOT HAVING SPOT OR WRINKLE OR ANY SUCH THING, BUT THAT SHE MIGHT BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.»&
CHURCH IN ALL HER GLORY, NOT HAVING SPOT OR WRINKLE OR ANY SUCH
THING, BUT THAT SHE MIGHT BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.»»
Very often,
as we do these
things in our community, it comes out that we are followers of Jesus but that we don't attend
church.
Many seminarians will become pastors who are either cynical about the gap between the «true» and the «false»
church or who quickly jettison their theology and settle down with «
things as they are» in the congregation, offering the congregation no better interpretation of its common life than the mere need for organizational maintenance.
The plan calls upon
churches to, among other
things, «adopt» street gangs and allow troubled youths to use
church properties
as safe havens; intercede for youth in the juvenile court system; provide vocational training to inner - city residents; organize capital for micro-enterprises; develop educational curricula heralding the achievements of blacks and Latinos; initiate neighborhood crime watch groups; and establish counseling programs for battered women and the men who abuse them.
Of course, the
church should endorse the use of such
things as they will cause a substantial portion of the population to invoke god's name.