Not exact matches
The worst thing on the planet for me would be where
trad publishers start paying 50 % or more to their authors, and lose their battle
with Amazon, only to see their
books priced in the weeds.
It doesn't matter that I've made as much on several of my
books as I would
with a
trad publishing contract.
I tend to keep
with the above list, especially for science fiction and fantasy, because that is how print
books in those genres (from
trad publishers) open their
books.
The literary world is littered
with excellent novelists who've delivered 3 - 4
books to
trad publishers, and still haven't made enough money to quit the day job.
As I've continued on my self - publishing path, though, I've felt more frustration
with what happens
with my
trad - pubbed
books.
I'd also love to explore foreign markets
with the
trad pubbed
books.
So for me to buy more
trad published
books than self because I have limited money, not because of bias, makes logical sense and has NOTHING TO DO
WITH BIAS, which obviously your comments were.
I seem to be perfectly able to separate out good indie reads from bad ones and really I'd have to go through that process of elimination
with trad pubbed
books as well.
If you wrote and published just a little bit more and did some of these as self - pubbed
books at a lower price range to go along
with your
trad pub deals, I'll bet you could make a lot more.
Considering how poorly trained the volunteers were — most of whom are readers and have zero idea of author politics or the indie /
trad battle of bruised egos — I'm not surprised if a) one or two volunteers got the designation wrong and / or b) the overheard conversations had zero to do
with the
book signing and were instead «why does your name badge say that / what do you write / do you have a
book out?»
Have to disagree
with some of the points on
trad publishing though - For the pros you neglected to mention that the publishers distribute your
book to all bookstores and e-books sites (hitting two marketing areas) A huge Pro considering most authors are battling to get their
book seen and traditional publishing can do that.
Yes, on balance, there are probably more
trad published
books that are better than indie
books but let's not throw the baby out
with the bathwater.
I'm an indy - author since trying the
trad - publishing route in 2005 - 06
with my first two
books (historical novels, which several agents looked at, and said regretfully that they were very good... but just not marketable.)
Most of the
books are
trad pub, but they are open to self - publishers
with a «professional appearance» (it's pricey, though).
However, when I wrote The Experiencers (my first novel) and consulted on the subject of
trad versus indie publishing
with a hybrid author who has been writing
books since the 1970s, he made a good case for me to go indie.
Because I view all of that as found money, and because it highlights that even if you're not madly pursuing a
trad deal, good agents still have a valuable role they can play in the mix, even
with indie published
books.
As for spelling mistakes
with indies, yeh, some but no more than I've found in the
trad published
books.
I've already got fans of the
book wanting a second one and who knows how long it would've taken that to happen
with trad.
One advantage NY
Trads have appears to be in the editing process (and of course print distribution), however
with POD services the print distribution for a
book can be as broad as ebook distribution.
Since we're making outlandish, provocative (and unsubstantiated) claims, I'll concur
with the response that
trad published authors are lazy because they don't want to put in the time and effort to produce or market their
books.
I'm thankful I have another option than
trad publishing, otherwise I'd be sitting here
with zero
books published.
It will be both interesting and instructive to see what happens next — and yes,
with so many
trad - published
books to your hard - working credit, you will remain a hybrid author for as long as it can matter.
I went on a
book tour
with a group of
trad - published authors.
The first need dies away as all errata are weeded out (and there are plenty of
trad published
books with errata that can't be bothered to clean up — I want my
books to be better than that).
Amazon introduced Kindle Unlimited, which enables customers to pay $ 10 a month and borrow as many
books as they like —
with the caveat that only some titles are in the program, which pays $ 1.33 for a borrow instead of the royalty an author would normally see (except for Amazon imprints and
trad pubs, which see their full royalty on a borrow); a windfall for those writing 10K short stories or serials, but not so great for those
with novels, hence limited participation.
Even
with authors who have
books that are both
trad and indie published.
It contrasts
with the
trad publishing / big bookstore business model, where a
book is a short - lived «event», sometimes lasting no more than three months.
What are your thoughts on the types of
books that people can write in order to make a living but also on
trad vs. indie, because when you started out you were traditional but you've also adjusted to the market
with your indie
books.
If the work had merit they would coordinate setting the author up
with all those necessary functions normally expected from
trad pub like cover development, final copy edit, marketing and promotion, adding the polish to take a
book indie
with better chance of success.
Sure, if you go
trad you'll get a big fat check so you'll be able to quit your day job and spend some quality time
with the ol' muse... oh, wait, no; if you win Slush Pile Lotto, your prize is one third of a pretty mediocre check that may pay a month or two of rent during the six months before the
book is done and you get the second third of said check.
I find those
with some
trad experience are generally more interesting, as opposed to some noob self - pubbers that post stuff like, «So what's you favorite character in my new
book?
I put my first indie
book at 7.99 because of my other
books with trad sources.
That means that indies can't compete
with trad pub titles for visibility, as they don't have the same tools — they can't set a list price, and they can't price their
books over $ 9.99 (unless they want 35 % commission, which would be daft).
Why is the author made to feel like a non-entity
with trad publishers when without authors writing
books, they wouldn't exist?
As a
trad - pub author who is just testing the waters
with his first indie
book, this is very good news, indeed.
I've seen a friend of mine on Twitter say he won't buy a
book that's less than $ 9.99 (
with the idea being that at $ 9.99 and above, it's
with a
trad publisher, and anything below must be indie and therefore crap).
Some come to self - pubbing
with a backlist, some start
with self - pubbing and move existing series to
trad pub, some have entirely new
books they sell to
trad pub (that's my case, just one title).
As well, my concern as a professionally published author is that aggressive marketing (TV commercials, Youtube trailers, fancy websites etc.) are creating a successful viral marketing paradigm for self - pubbed fiction that has the potential to impact
trad publishing & leave writers wondering «why bother
with the arduous and often heartbreaking process of queries, rejection slips, the endless waiting, etc. when the neighbor simply threw up a website, hired a gang of marketing professionals and bingo, Neil Gaiman is reviewing their
book before it's even published?!»
For those interested in her full bio, you can read her Amazon author page, but the short version is that she's sold over 3 million
books, is a force to be reckoned
with in the industry, and is one of only three folks I know of who have done paper - only deals
with trad publishers.
My traditional - published experiences have been largely positive — working
with Clive and the people at G.P. Putnam's was a great experience, and I've had about ten of my
books bought by
trad publishers in other countries, so that's exciting.
While it seems counter-productive for KP to let a
book languish, we've seen that scenario play out for years
with trad pubbers.
(As an aside, I suspect if I dug into the publishing contracts
with many
trad pubbed authors, I'd find a clause that cuts their royalties to almost nothing when the selling price of a
book is greater than a 50 % discount.
Yesterday, I saw all my
trad friends posting photos of themselves at ALA and I had a moment, I was like, I wan na poster, I wan na booth, I wan na be there signing
books with millions of ready made fans — all milestones I wanted to achieve, before I self published that now (in this moment) feel millions of miles of impossibility away... and then I was like, why do I care?
And then I remembered, I had an agent, a great agent, I wrote great
books (so all the rejecting editors told me) and yes, you are right, self pub has given my stories a voice and an ear and the chance to be read, when they otherwise would have still been gathering dust on my hard drive, yet, on the other hand this is hard, REALLY HARD, it is SO hard to find your way to a readership as a SP,
with limited funds (dwindling)... and the glimmer of
trad pub —
with their power to splash your name around established circles of readers, and their ability to secure a great number of reviews where, as a self pub, doors have been slammed in my face — becomes temptingly shiny again, (it's like childbirth, you forget all the painful stuff
with time)... and it all gets very tempting... almost tempting enough to consider sacrificing one work JUST one artistic premise for the trade off of visibility... and then perhaps, just perhaps THEN, my SP efforts will finally sprout wings... but then I hear you and other say, it wasn't worth it, you'd never do it again, and I sigh... And then I wake up the next morning and think of packing it all in, and going to work for Walmart and steady shitty pay... lol And then along comes this blog post.
I lived from
book deal to
book deal for 20 years
with trad publishing.
As regular IndieReader's know by now, by cutting out the middleman of publishers, indie authors work directly
with online retailers to publish and distribute their
books more quickly, more inexpensively to the consumer, and for a much larger share of the profits than a «
trad» publisher offers.
I have had over 50
books published in non-fiction (textbooks)
with a big US publisher so I'm pretty familiar
with trad publishers and I have to say Amazon Publishing seems to get it as you say.
I have been
trad published and been
with three different publishers here in Ireland, got the advance, done the
book tours, interviews, etc..
She has worked
with Cambridge University Press, where she managed technical production cycles for
books and software from development to publication, and Oberon Books, London, a specialist book publisher where she gained insight into the gatekeeping process in trad publis
books and software from development to publication, and Oberon
Books, London, a specialist book publisher where she gained insight into the gatekeeping process in trad publis
Books, London, a specialist
book publisher where she gained insight into the gatekeeping process in
trad publishing.
Interestingly, once you have a huge platform, you may not NEED a
trad published deal (you might make about the same money anyway, but you'd be selling a lot more
books and getting more visibility
with a traditional publisher, which is what I want).