It's a cynical view, where
trad published authors get hurt, yes.
Of course,
the trad published authors of the Big 5 get less than $ 44,22 a day on average (because the Big 5 take a huge part), but for me, it is proof that Kindle Unlimited makes it harder for an author to make a living.
The only reason
trad published authors don't is that most trad publishers do NOT push the e-book and they price it so high that people see more «value» in the printed version, especially the hardcover.
Thank you for speaking out for us indie authors who work just as hard in many instances on craft and career as
trad published authors.
I don't know about
Trad published authors, but check out the latest Author Earnings Report that Hugh Howey is putting out to give you an idea of the market.
An increasing number of
trad published authors are reporting little or no promotional help... basically the publisher requires the author already have a proven following before even signing them up... and then hands them a to - do list that basically is things for the author, rather than the publisher, to do.
Occasionally one of these authors is even invited to speak or be on a panel with
trad published authors.
How many
trad published authors actually make a living from their books?
Because they have a following of readers who have known them not as just indie authors but as
trad published authors as well.
Their trad published authors are available in every store (even ones who are in KU...), so I'm sure it's mystifying to readers too.
Plus, there is the fact that indies reach that magic number quicker than
trad published authors do because we don't have agents and publishers taking their share of the money out before it finally trickles down to us.
Asserting that self - publishers take away seven times more than
trad published authors may appeal to his audience, but ignores the fact that Amazon pays just 35 % much of the time.
Since we're making outlandish, provocative (and unsubstantiated) claims, I'll concur with the response that
trad published authors are lazy because they don't want to put in the time and effort to produce or market their books.
Think how many
trad published authors discover typos, story errors, description errors and could NOT fix it.
We actually talk to authors - you see a few blog posts and articles and believe we are at war but the reality is many of us know
trad published authors - some are happy, some are becoming unhappy, some are in the middle of lawsuits, some are no longer writing because they couldn't afford to sue and gave up.
If you look at a number of
trad published authors they had pen names for their different genres and now they are moving away from that.
My limit (except for Baen E-Arcs) seems to be $ 10 even for
trad published authors that I have bought for years.
I recently unfollowed a debut
trad published author on twitter because his comments were things like «I'm having pasta for breakfast.
I am finding that a lot of my favorite
trad published author's books are just quickly pumped out and have no feeling to them like they used to.
Sympathies for the poor
trad published author - I wonder if he realises?
Not exact matches
When I first decided to become an independent
author and self -
publish after having gone the
trad route with nonfiction and made a few attempts to go the
trad route for fiction, I knew next - to - nothing about the social media circus I was about to join.
We asked her a bunch of questions about what she found in regard to
author income, books on sale, and whether indie or
trad publishing is more likely to get a person to a living wage (which she defined as the U.S. average of $ 32,000 a year).
Who responded (indie,
trad published, hybrid, small press, etc.) and how many
authors were interviewed?
The more we can do to help
authors navigate the tricky learning curve of either self -
publishing or working with agents towards a
trad publishing contract the better!
The truth has always been that most
trad published books are damp squibs (speaking from experience), but self -
publishing has allowed
authors to give readers what they want to read instead of what agents and publishers think they want to read.
Are poets not
authors, because books of poetry typically have low sales, whether self -
published or
trad -
published?
The poor
trad -
published Official Koslowski
Authors must be so sad having to share their Goodreads shelf space with the absolute scum of the Earth.
If book «x» is
trad published and successful enough to sell, let's say, 20,000 books (or whatever, just a number I grabbed at), and book «y» is indy
published and sells the same amount, there is no doubt that the
author of the indy book is going to be FAR better off.
I know KR and DWS are very down on agents, but they were already established
authors who had built reputations through
trad publishing before they went indie.
Successful self -
published authors tend to promote themselves more effectively than the average
trad pub
author.
But none in the traditional
publishing arena, because, however lousy one reader or another may think a
trad - pubbed book, at the very least SOMEBODY liked it besides the
author.
Building a solid
author brand is the key to getting discovered and selling books for a self -
published author (and even
trad -
published books).
Many of my
author friends are
trad published, and I always saw that as a grass - is - greener issue.
There is good and bad to both
trad» and self
publishing, and that may vary
author to
author or even title to title.
However, we know they're elitists from things they've said in the past about self -
published books being of lesser quality compared to
trad pub books (how ironic that now
trad pub
authors are complaining more about their books having so many typos and problems when printed).
Trad publishing also has some great things going for it, but there are also drawbacks that an
author has to weigh before signing on the dotted line.
Have to disagree with some of the points on
trad publishing though - For the pros you neglected to mention that the publishers distribute your book to all bookstores and e-books sites (hitting two marketing areas) A huge Pro considering most
authors are battling to get their book seen and traditional
publishing can do that.
Author of #historical fiction, ex costume designer, history, art and nature fan (currently both
trad and indie
published).
I'm an indy -
author since trying the
trad -
publishing route in 2005 - 06 with my first two books (historical novels, which several agents looked at, and said regretfully that they were very good... but just not marketable.)
However, when I wrote The Experiencers (my first novel) and consulted on the subject of
trad versus indie
publishing with a hybrid
author who has been writing books since the 1970s, he made a good case for me to go indie.
And since the onus of marketing is vastly on me and my coauthor (something else many self -
publishing authors don't realize — they'll have to do the majority of book promotion themselves regardless of how they
publish), there hasn't been a real advantage to going the
trad route.
The difference in income between successful traditionally
published authors and successful self -
published authors is getting narrower each day, with many self -
published authors now making much, much more than their
trad pub counterparts.
More and more
authors are becoming hybrids these days, both indie and
trad -
published.
It dramatically helps
trad authors to buy their books in the first week, and I want my favorite
authors to keep
publishing.
Another question: do you think the discounting by Amazon could be on purpose, because they noticed big
publishing was practicing deep discount conditions with Amazon's discounts, and Amazon knew the more discounting it would do, the more
trad pub and hybrid
authors would be screwed, and tempted to become only self -
published authors?
It's one thing to say that indie
publishing is a successful alternative to
trad publishing and worth pursuing, and that there are notable success stories — especially among trained, highly motivated
authors — most of them with established name from
trad pub backgrounds.
It would also be great if
Author Earnings could study this, and compare the money made by a trad pub author in libraries vs an indie author's, and also the raw numbers of books trad published in libraries vs indie publ
Author Earnings could study this, and compare the money made by a
trad pub
author in libraries vs an indie author's, and also the raw numbers of books trad published in libraries vs indie publ
author in libraries vs an indie
author's, and also the raw numbers of books trad published in libraries vs indie publ
author's, and also the raw numbers of books
trad published in libraries vs indie
published.
The question of bringing readers over from
trad to self is worth taking into account, but with the lion's share of the marketing being done by the
author wherever the
publishing is happening, I'm not sure how much longer that will be relevant either.
These are good points, but don't take into consideration a big change in
trad publishing: the
author is increasingly responsible for marketing and branding.
I look at indie
publishing as a way to show the
trad publishing industry just what an
author has and what they can do for themselves, kind of like a «try before you buy» with little risk to them and, actually, little risk — even financially — to the
authors.