And of course there's still substantial
uncertainty in climate models at the regional scale in war - prone places (again, a prime example is the set of countries along the southern fringe of the Sahara Desert, where models still clash on which areas will grow drier or wetter; see my Somalia posts.)
Not exact matches
Mission leaders were relieved and eager to begin their studies of cloud and haze effects, which «constitute the largest
uncertainties in our
models of future
climate — that's no exaggeration,» says Jens Redemann, an atmospheric scientist
at NASA's Ames Research Center
in Mountain View, California, and the principal investigator for ObseRvations of Aerosols above CLouds and their IntEractionS (ORACLES).
A recent study
in the Journal of Environmental Management carried out by researchers
at the European Forest Institute and their partners
in the FP7 funded MOTIVE project (
Models for Adaptive Forest Management) discusses how forest managers and decision makers can cope with
climate uncertainties.
Dr. Yun Qian, atmospheric and
climate modeling scientist at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, was invited to organize and direct an international workshop on «Uncertainty Quantification in Climate Modeling and Projection» in Trieste,
climate modeling scientist at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, was invited to organize and direct an international workshop on «Uncertainty Quantification in Climate Modeling and Projection» in Trieste
modeling scientist
at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, was invited to organize and direct an international workshop on «
Uncertainty Quantification
in Climate Modeling and Projection» in Trieste,
Climate Modeling and Projection» in Trieste
Modeling and Projection»
in Trieste, Italy.
Dufresne, 2005: Marine boundary - layer clouds
at the heart of tropical cloud feedback
uncertainties in climate models.
Wigley et al. (1997) pointed out that
uncertainties in forcing and response made it impossible to use observed global temperature changes to constrain ECS more tightly than the range explored by
climate models at the time (1.5 °C to 4.5 °C), and particularly the upper end of the range, a conclusion confirmed by subsequent studies.
Part of the
uncertainty in the attribution is of course how realistic the «noise»
in the
models is — and that can be assessed by looking
at hindcasts, paleo -
climate etc..
At the tail end of the full paper, capping a paragraph about a weak spot
in the analysis — that the observed trend
in extreme precipitation events exceeds what is produced by various
climate models — comes a sentence about
uncertainties:
When we talk about future
climate change, our discussion often stalls
at the
uncertainties inherent
in scientists» statistical
models and forecasts.
A new study by Prof Jason Lowe and Dr Dan Bernie
at the UK's Met Office Hadley Centre takes these CMIP5
models and tries to account for additional
uncertainties in the carbon budget associated with feedbacks, such as carbon released by thawing of permafrost or methane production from wetlands, as a result of
climate change.
The structural
uncertainties above are not expressed
in trivial intermodel variability, but lie
at the core of IPCC
climate modeling, including its reliance on the radiative forcing paradigm.
I won't repeat what I said on an earlier forum, but a quick look
at Paul Williams» presentation on numerical errors
in climate modeling shows a host of issues that would lead me to assign a rather high
uncertainty to the
model results, and then we have the
uncertainties in the physical
models themselves.
Analyses of tide gauge and altimetry data by Vinogradov and Ponte (2011), which indicated the presence of considerably small spatial scale variability
in annual mean sea level over many coastal regions, are an important factor for understanding the
uncertainties in regional sea - level simulations and projections
at sub-decadal time scales
in coarse - resolution
climate models that are also discussed
in Chapter 13.
At the moment, the
uncertainties in modeling and complexities of the ocean system even prevent any quantification of how much of the present changes
in the oceans is being caused by anthropogenic
climate change or natural
climate variability, and how much by other human activities such as fishing, pollution, etc..
Why isn't a TCR type of simulation, but instead using actual history and 200 year projected GHG levels
in the atmosphere, that would produce results similar to a TCR simulation (
at least for the AGW temp increase that would occur when the CO2 level is doubled) and would result
in much less
uncertainty than ECS (as assessed by
climate model dispersions), a more appropriate metric for a 300 year forecast, since it takes the
climate more than 1000 years to equilibrate to the hypothesized ECS value, and we have only uncertain methods to check the computed ECS value with actual physical data?
In practice, this sequential and conditional approach to representing uncertainty in climate scenarios has at least one severe limitation: at each stage of the cascade, only a limited number of the conditional outcomes have been explicitly modelle
In practice, this sequential and conditional approach to representing
uncertainty in climate scenarios has at least one severe limitation: at each stage of the cascade, only a limited number of the conditional outcomes have been explicitly modelle
in climate scenarios has
at least one severe limitation:
at each stage of the cascade, only a limited number of the conditional outcomes have been explicitly
modelled.
«
At each step (of the CO2 calculations)
uncertainty in the time signals of
climate change is introduced by errors
in the representation of earth's system processes
in modelling.»
«The
uncertainties of the
climate models have not been studied sufficiently
at all, and the established science tries to keep quiet about this situation
in public.»
Back
at # 46 Gavin said
in relationship to Hargreaves «Skill and
Uncertainty in climate models» (and the Wiley site is now available):
In UKCIP08, for example, we are handling this problem by combining results from two different types of ensemble data: One is a systematic sampling of the uncertainties in a single model, obtained by changing uncertain parameters that control the climate system; the other is a multi-model ensemble obtained by pooling results from alternative models developed at different international center
In UKCIP08, for example, we are handling this problem by combining results from two different types of ensemble data: One is a systematic sampling of the
uncertainties in a single model, obtained by changing uncertain parameters that control the climate system; the other is a multi-model ensemble obtained by pooling results from alternative models developed at different international center
in a single
model, obtained by changing uncertain parameters that control the
climate system; the other is a multi-
model ensemble obtained by pooling results from alternative
models developed
at different international centers.
As such, we may consider the MME as sampling
at least some of our
uncertainties in how a
climate model should be constructed.