«The «normal» physicist (or simple «scientist» should be able to
understand the climate debate, and should not be silenced or denied voicing his opinions, just because he is not the full blown..»
«I think
I understand the climate debate better than anyone, not because I know more about climate but because I know more about the logic of complex issues.
Hulme indeed wrote an article in 2007 citing the need to use PNS to
understand the climate debate and the claims made at both of its extremes.
Clearly they have no use if we want a historically consistent definition with which to
understand the climate debate in the present.
Nuccitelli's survey results are either the result of a comprehensive failure to
understand the climate debate, or an attempt to divide it in such a way as to frame the result for political ends.
To
understand the climate debate, then, it is often necessary to look outside it, rather than take it at face value.
Just as Donald and Painter's evidence to the STC reflected either naivety or a strategy, Nuccitelli's survey results are either the result of a comprehensive failure to
understand the climate debate, or an attempt to divide it in such a way as to frame the result for political ends.
Not exact matches
«It reframes part of the
climate change
debate by encouraging individuals around the world to better
understand where their electricity is coming from before they adopt supposedly eco-friendly technologies,» he says.
For this reason, a European project was estaqblished in 2011, COST - action TOSCA (Towards a more complete assessment of the impact of solar variability on the Earth's
climate), whose objective is to provide a better
understanding of the «hotly
debated role of the Sun in
climate change» (not really in the scientific fora, but more in the general public discourse).
My
understanding of most of the (lets call it) skeptical positions from people like Roy Spencer is that they essentially claim exactly that: the absence of a large signal compared to noise (or natural variability) and the entire
debate is essentially about the question, whether noise is a measurement / statistical problem or the very nature of
climate itself?
What's important, to my mind, is not to confuse this kind of normal, healthy scientific
debate with more basic
understanding of human contributions to, and responses to,
climate change.
Overall, I think the
debate over the iris hypothesis is a testament to the efforts the scientific community goes through to evaluate challenges to theories and find ways to improve our
understanding of the
climate (for instance, see Bill Ruddiman's post from last week).
I only note that the scientific
understanding of the reality and risks of
climate change is strong, compelling, and increasingly disturbing, and a rational public
debate is desperately needed.
You don't have to be a
climate scientist to
understand what's fair in the structure of a civic
debate.
I
understand there is some
debate about whether earthquakes could be related to
climate change.
oh, as for web resources to help
understand it all, on
climate and global warming there is the wonderful Climate Debate Daily, with both
climate and global warming there is the wonderful
Climate Debate Daily, with both
Climate Debate Daily, with both (all?)
The 2 °C target is a matter of substantial
debate (too weak, too strong, too vague...), but it is a good yardstick for
understanding the scale of
climate change, and its impacts, that we are setting ourselves up for this century.
The violation of the Third Law will be only temporary as slowly scientific observation and
understanding will get the better of the present situation... it is a firm conclusion that the
climate change
debate is distorted in its presentation and that its alleged scientific conclusions are unsound.
The more substantive problem with the argument, if we take it at face value, is it's own inability to
understand the terms of the
climate debate.
One can tell by how
climate change policies are being
debated around much of the world that few people, including many very educated people,
understand the scale and urgency of the problem now [continue reading...]
Anthony Watts is not a contributor to
climate science in the way Gavin Schmidt is but you need to
understand both of them to
understand the
debate between them.
George Browning: Sustainability and Sabbath: Genesis 2:1 - 4a and the
Climate Change
debate This thesis argues that a person of faith and more particularly of Christian faith is a person who lives Sabbath rest,
understands their place within the creation, and is committed to the redeeming of the whole created order and the fidelities which enable life to be sustainable.
By and large, this is how
climate scientists seem to have obtained their
understanding of the Hockey Stick
debate — and here realclimate is hardly an unbiased source.
But I share MacCracken's view that this is the not forum for a full - blown
debate — and that the «
debate» format in general, pitting two «sides» against each other, is not the best way to assess the state of scientific
understanding of
climate change.
And Joe Smith, at least seems to
understand that the
climate debate is about more than
climate science.
His refusal to
understand the
debate he comments on even leads him to put mainstream
climate scientists into the same category as «deniers».
How would more respectful
debate, between scientists who trust homogenized trends and those who don't, help the public better
understand climate change?
Stewart has in his possession the very facts he needs to
understand that he has mischaracterised the
debate, the arguments, and the motives behind objections to
climate change alarmism.
======================= It's puzzling how someone who recognises that banning DDT for the sake of the environment led to an epidemic - level rise in world malaria (Pandora's Lab: Seven Stories of Science Gone Wrong) has such a crude (mis)
understanding of the issues in the
climate debate, for instance can not see the cost / benefit argument concerning fossil fuels.
I would say the
climate debate has been muddled by trying to tease out a signal in a system we don't seem to
understand very well.
If
climate change is
understood to be a moral issue, it would completely transform the way
climate change policies have been
debated in the United States for over three decades.
I hope that you
understand that there are many here who selectively identify agendas on (only) one side of the
climate change
debate.
In a widely cited study, Drexel University sociologist Robert Brulle claimed to expose a vast network of organizations executing «a deliberate and organized effort to misdirect
debate and distort the
understanding of
climate change.»
In a still widely cited study Brulle claimed to expose a vast network of organizations executing «a deliberate and organized effort to misdirect
debate and distort the
understanding of
climate change.»
In the absence of any obvious
climate catastrophe, let alone the slightest evidence, I can only conclude that the alarmists
understand at some level that are losing the «
debate,» such as it has been.
Most casual participants in the Global Warming «
debate» don't have the time to deep - dive the dozens of interrelated specialties needed to
understand climate science.
This book is not pleasant to read, but it is essential if you are to
understand the origins of the irrational and vicious wrangling that pollutes the
climate debate.
«Successfully reframing the
climate debate in the United States from one based on environmental values to one based on health values... holds great promise to help American society better understand and appreciate the risks of climate change...» — George Mason University, Center for Climate Change Communication, May
climate debate in the United States from one based on environmental values to one based on health values... holds great promise to help American society better
understand and appreciate the risks of
climate change...» — George Mason University, Center for Climate Change Communication, May
climate change...» — George Mason University, Center for
Climate Change Communication, May
Climate Change Communication, May 9, 2011
Brulle claimed to expose a network of nonprofit organizations executing «a deliberate and organized effort to misdirect
debate and distort» the public's
understanding of
climate science.
«It seems that the
debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who
understand the nuances and scientific basis of long - term
climate processes.»
None of this is
understood and the
climate change
debate can not be settled until it is
understood.
There's a real
debate that needs to be had on the values, economics, and politics associated with the risks of
climate change; lets have that
debate in the context of a rational backdrop of what we
understand about the
climate system, along with the uncertainties and unknowns.
The fact that Lewandowsky could put Betts into a category of «
climate sceptic», and his comment into a category of «conspiracy theory» should be an object lesson about letting prejudice influence research for those seeking to
understand and explain the
climate debate.
However, if
climate change is
understood as essentially a moral and ethical problem it will eventually transform how
climate change is
debated because the successful framing by the opponents of
climate change policies that have limited recent
debate to these three arguments, namely cost, scientific uncertainty, and unfairness of reducing ghg emissions until China does so can be shown to be deeply ethically and morally problematic.
Combined with the growing
understanding that carbon emissions from the combustion of fossil fuels are driving global
climate change, the
debate is now focused on how to restructure the U.S. transport system to solve these two problems.
Great, if we can get the skeptics to
understand why the â $ œno significant warming since [date] â $ œ argument is bogus, and quit cherry picking, it will be a victory for BOTH sides of the
climate debate.
I encourage anybody who is serious about the
climate change
debate to
understand Weitzman's logic in detail.
If you think winning the
climate debate depends on «the consensus [being] outed internally by people with courage,» I can
understand your pessimism.
The report also noted that «the
climate debate has become increasingly polarised around political issues rather than scientific
understanding».
He told me that after the
climate change
debate had opened, he vowed that he would make no contribution to it unless and until he had satisfied himself that he had achieved sufficient
understanding of the scientific issues involved.