Tiggy says: If someone were a rapist, yes he / she would still be a child of God in my eyes and in the eyes of both of the two
very different churches I attend.
If someone were a rapist, yes he / she would still be a child of God in my eyes and in the eyes of both of the two
very different churches I attend.
well, there are certainly a lot of
very different churches out there.
American and British theologians oft en find themselves in significant agreement — drawing on similar sources and reaching shared conclusions — but geographical distance as well as
the very different church - state relations in the two nations have meant that Christians in one region are often unaware of theological developments in the other.
Not exact matches
Facing the
very different challenges posed by the sexual revolution, we can learn from this sad episode in the
Church's history.
More recently, however, a
very different attitude to the
church's tradition has emerged.
Although they are aware that the intellectual landmarks are changing, they find it difficult to believe that the basic commitment to civility, relevant evidence, and respect for the tradition of the
church across the ages might be overtaken by a
very different vision of the
church.
The reason why I (and potentially many other non-believers) react with cynicism and hostility to stories like this is that they demonstrate how
very different the actions of the
church are from the claims it makes about itself: infallibility, benevolence, selflessness, and godliness.
However, for a
Church pastor the context of considering these things is quite
different, and writing about these things provokes a
very different response in people.
The Catholic
Church, presumably, has a
very different structure of governance.
The practices and beliefs of members of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter - day Saints is
very different from the FLDS and other religions that practice polygamy, and the polygamist lifestyles recently being represented in the media in no way reflect the lifestyle of active members of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter - day Saints.
Christianity as a whole, is
very confusing, because so many
different churches claim to beleive in Jesus... we have the baptists differing with the catholics, and the catholics differing with the escopalitans, and then we have the lutherans differing from the methodists, and then we have the born - agains differing from everybody else on this earth.
Paul wrote to existing
churches and to pastors on a variety of
different topics, and one does not present an air of confidence if one is telling a lie when he knows
very well that there are witnesses who saw the same things that he saw, and could call him out should he tell a lie.
Hailing from four
very different parts of the
Church, Pope Francis, Steve Chalke, Carlton Pearson and Rob Bell don't have that much in common.
There wasn't any abuse involved from either side - just two
very different ways of doing
church.
When I jumped (and I do mean jumped, a ready or not here I come, head - first dive) from the Sunday - mainstream -
church - going - because - it's - what - you - do nominal / cultural Christianity that I was raised with into «serious» Christianity (to use the vernacular: born again, spirit filled, Bible believing, charismatic, etc.) and became what was at the time called a «Jesus freak» (it was 1972) I expected something from the
church which was
very different than what I found.
But that is a
very different matter from the idolatrous absolutization of the Bible or the
church.
The body of Christ, the
church, and the state are two separate and
very different entities in our country.
To answer your question... yes I am exploring the same issues by creating a
very simple series of short vidoes placed on the web which exmaines a
different path for the 21st century
church to follow and what it could look like, Its not advertised but about 3500 viewings so far.
My story is
different from yours, I have not an issue with sexuality, but I know that there is something
very wrong with the
church and there are so many things in it that contradict the words of Yeshua.
Which is why it was such a pleasure, a few days later, to find myself in a
very different kind of
church, this one compact, ultramodern, made of glass.
The difference is often detectable in the
very way that a
church member may express her congregational affiliation; «I go to that church on Brady Street» is very different from «I belong to a great community of people, and we call ourselves St. Paul Lutheran Church.&
church member may express her congregational affiliation; «I go to that
church on Brady Street» is very different from «I belong to a great community of people, and we call ourselves St. Paul Lutheran Church.&
church on Brady Street» is
very different from «I belong to a great community of people, and we call ourselves St. Paul Lutheran
Church.&
Church.»
Hence he can, for example, be of the opinion that the
Church could give up the indissolubility of sacramental marriage just as well as the ecclesial form of contracting a marriage, or that she could change the
very principles of sexual morality because formerly she took a
different authoritative, though not definitive, view of their application, which will perhaps have to be revised.
I am not Baptist nor do i intend to become a member of this
church but I am thankful for the pastor letting me attend bible study despite our
very different beliefs on biblical subjects.
As a «someone» with a
very public view that is contrary to the «official» party line, and who has ministered in so many
different churches — evangelical and otherwise — what has your experience been in this area?
Jefferson's letter in response argued for a
very different concept - a «wall of separation between
Church & State» - that, according to him, was enshrined in the First Amendment.
But if that is done by the
Church's magisterium, it can only be through propositions which are not themselves absolute dogma but serious and valid items of knowledge (in varying degrees, of course, and of
very many
different kinds), but knowledge which in principle is subject to revision and capable of improvement, and which can be deepened, clarified, given greater discrimination, improved in this or that respect, or even abandoned.
If the male run fundamentalist
Churches could have power and influence in the legal system it would be
very different for women here.
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Very soon after, a letter was addressed in quite a
different vein to the
churches of Asia Minor.
Although
very different, the UN and the Catholic
Church share the distinction of being global institutions of moral - political influence.
It is likely that the coalition formed there failed to notice that their merger was never perfected, for they separately envisioned two
very different foundations: «one fully under the control of the bishops and one committed, above all else, to theological education... [and] a
church - sponsored university but otherwise one without religious tests or even theological schools, one open to the latest science and scholarship.»
If we step back and forget everything we think we know about
church, and read the texts without such filters, they say something
very different than often assumed.
Therefore,
church music should be judged by criteria that are
very different from those by which we judge common art.
On the other hand, there are «sad» teens who feel so
different because of trouble at home that they may be
very quiet, or simply refuse to participate in youth programs at
church.
The way in which Virginia approached the question of religious liberty was
very different from the path chosen by Massachusetts and other states, but the Virginia way has become the standard by which American liberals today measure the relations of
church and state» and even of religion and society.
It is possible that we are on the verge of a new era in the history of the
Church, under circumstances
very different from those we have faced in the past, when Christianity will resemble the mustard seed [Matthew 13:31 - 32], that is, will continue only in the form of small and seemingly insignificant groups, which yet will oppose evil with all their strength and bring Good into this world.
The truth is, because of the racism of the past,
very different worship environments have emerged in white and black
churches.
The
church was
very large (around 10,000) but the style and theology couldn't have been more
different to Lakewood.
If they did, the
church would be a
very different place.
He will always refuse in the last resort (provisionally it is a
different matter) to regard the
Church as an affirmation which stands in contradiction to what is really meant in the
very depths of the affirmations of others, so that ultimately there has to be a choice.
But of this I remain certain: A marriage license in jurisdictions that have redefined marriage gives legal form to something
very different from what the Bible and
church tradition call marriage.
As Jeremy says, although some of what they believe is
very different much is like many fundamental christian
churches.
It's profound to see how God brings things full - circle, and that in your obedience, honesty and willingness to serve him you end up in
very similar situations to Jesus, in a totally
different world to the «successful»
churches.
Pastor Philip Blackwell calls it «a cathedral
church» that serves two
very different populations.
If you are a part of a mainline
church and recognize this need for change, first I would say, don't be afraid to look into movements
very different from your own.
The truth is Jesus was teaching something
very different from what the word «
church» means to us today.
Tim i found it liberating to just do what the Lord wants you to do i work within his boundarys and yes i attend
church and enjoy it.I love the people and i love hearing the word and worshipping the Lord even if others are still bound up with traditions thats not my walk thats theres.My focus is to do what the Lord wants me to do.There have been times i have said no to the pastor he does nt understand why i choose not to lead the worship.i query him as well regarding the idea that its not just performing a function because there is a need our hearts have to be in the right place so that the Lord can use us but he did nt understand where i was coming from and thats okay because of that i just said no until my heart is right i am better not being involved in leading.But i am happy to be an encouragement to others in the worship team i havent wanted to be the leader i have done that in the past.So my focus has been just the singing and being part of
different worship teams i think the Lord has other plans as the groups i am in seem to be changing at the same time i am aware that i do nt to worry about change as the Lord knows whats best.I used to be quite comfortable leading the music but that was before when i was operating in my own self confidence and pride.The Lord did such a huge change in my life that i lost my self confidence and that is not a bad thing at all as my spiritual growth has been incredible.The big change was my identity moved from me and what i could do to knowing who i was in Christ and that he is my strength and confidence.Now i know that without him i can do nothing in fact i am dependent on his empowerment through his holy spirit all the time in everything.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music at another
church i attend multiple
churchs although i attend two regularly one has services in the morning and one has services in the evening so the two do nt really clash.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music its been two years since i did that and i was worried on how i would go.All i can say is that it went really well and because i stepped out in Faith the Lord really blessed the morning to the congregation.The difference is knowing that i serve the Lord with the gifts he has given me but my heart has to be right and when i do it in his way it builds up the body and it brings glory to him.May the Lord continue to show you what he wants you to do even though others may not understand your reasons i just want you to know that you do nt have to pull away completely just work within the boundarys that the Lord gives you and do nt feel pressured by others expectations to do anything that feel uncomfortable.Be involved just as you feel lead by the holy spirit even if it is in a
very minor way take small steps.regards brentnz
We'll leave behind for a moment that the Christianity of our forefathers looked
very different from the Christianity of today's Religious Right (unless you are ready to talk about slavery, separation of
Church and state, the Jefferson Bible, and Benjamin Franklin).
Had Paul been put in his place at Antioch, and Gentiles been required to accept the Law in order to be Christian, then the
Church Fathers would have selected
different books, ones supporting that view, when they canonized the Bible hundreds of years later, and you would
very likely be arguing the other side now, right?
He was
very different about laying down behavior for the
church, however.