I also typically need to size up in high
waisted denim anyway because it seems that no stretch, high waisted only fits TTS if your tall and have no ass, which I'm opposite of that so ♀️ here we are with that haha.
I love my Gingers in Theory
denim but they're not super stretchy, and I did the
waist stay, so they can be a bit uncomfortable after several hours (and plus, I want a non-cuffed pair
anyway).