On the other hand water baptism doesn't change anything, it only pictures a change that has hopefully already happened in the individual's life.
But I also believe that
water baptism does not make people Christians.
Not exact matches
Just because a Scripture talks about «
baptism,»
does not mean that it has
water baptism in view.
If
water baptism makes people Christians, then how
does one explain the people I know who were baptized * to please their girlfriend?
I
do not feel that you have proved your point, but rather much of what you have written actually could be used to promote the re-institution of
water baptism.
Acts 2:38
does include both
water and spirit
baptism, but this has to
do with Peter's «keys of the kingdom» which is found in Acts as the Gospel goes to the Jews, then to the Samaritans, and finally to the Gentiles.
In light of all this, while
baptism means immersion, it
does not necessarily imply
water.
Now, Jesus
did submit to the sacrament of
water baptism (what Quakers call «John's
baptism»), but is never recorded as baptizing with
water.
If you
do not believe Jesus is the only way to heaven, then, it makes it very easy to deny that
water baptism is essential for salvation.
The most popular way of explaining away Mark 16:16 is to say that it
does not say, that he who has not been baptized will be condemned, therefore
water baptism is not essential to be saved.
So just as
baptism could be
done with a few drops of
water, so also the Lord's Supper could be observed with a small bit of bread and a few drops of wine.
Baptism is simply a symbol of a change of heart, but the
water does not save us, and we can be saved without being baptized if need be.
Jesus didn't like swimming either (sport or otherwise)-- apart from the occasional
baptism, he seemed to prefer to stay above the
water...
You have been indoctrinated with the false teaching of
water baptism for salvation so that every time you see the words
water or
baptism you think it has to
do with
water baptism for salvation.
Hi, I'd would like to interject that if
water immersion is an absolute requirement for the most important thing that there is for lost people to know, then why
does water baptism not show up in all the scriptures that clearly state the Gospel message?
I was at a church a while back that
did a
baptism by running people through a
water sprinkler out on the front lawn, and
did communion with doughnuts and coffee.
Jeremy, I get what you are saying but i don't think for a moment that those requesting
baptism from the church can't differentiate between the
water ceremonies of the Hindu, Jews or Muslims.
If it is good enough for Jesus to be baptised then its good enough reason for me to as well that was why i wanted to be baptised.He says that it was necessary to fulfill all righteousness verse 15 in that sense he could have been talking of fulfilling the requirements of the law and in Jesus we fulfill the requirements of the law.I
do nt believe that it is neccesary step to be saved as some of the gentile believers Peter spoke to received the holy spirit before they were baptised.Its a good picture of the old being washed away and we are raised up as a new person in Christ.When i was baptised in the holy spirit and spoke in tongues it was exactly like a
water baptism i felt the
water washing over me as it washed i just started speaking in tongues.brentnz
This is from some notes of mine «Paul could say the Israelites were baptized into Moses even though they
did not undergo literal
water baptism in the name of Moses.
Doing this will generate questions about what happened, and why it was
done, just as
water baptism generated these questions in biblical times.
These symbolic rituals could be adopted today in lieu of
water baptism which might
do a better job of representing our full identification with Jesus Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection, and which, when we undergo them, would cause people who know us and observe what we are
doing, to ask us why we would perform such a bizarre and morbid action.
For example, John 3:5 has absolutely nothing to
do with
water baptism.
Did you know there are forms of
baptism that require no
water whatsoever?
What
does this mean then for the
water baptisms, and not just in Christianity, but also in Judaism, and in the numerous other religions around the world and throughout time that practiced some form of
baptism in
water?
These are a few examples of symbolic rituals that could be adopted today in lieu of
water baptism which might
do a better job of representing our full identification with Jesus Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection, and which, when we undergo them, would cause people who know us and observe what we are
doing, to ask us why we would perform such a bizarre and morbid action.
Baptism does unite us all, but not water b
Baptism does unite us all, but not
water baptismbaptism.
John
does, after all, preaching that the old way is dead, and the promised Messiah is coming who will usher in a new era of peace for the entire world, and that those who want to participate in this new era must show it by going through the
waters of
baptism, much as the followers of Ea would have
done 3000 years earlier.
Very true, the
baptism of the Holy Spirit
does not require any
water but brings about great change in the life of an individual.
But many Christians
do not realize this basic fact, and believe that God has further requirements for us, with
water baptism being one of them, which makes us acceptable and pleasing to God.
That prototype for Christian
baptism unites
water and Spirit, and what God has joined together, man ought not to separate — which the apostles
did not, even with Gentile converts.
For an example, some take Peter's instruction in Acts 2:38 as a prescription for the practice of
water baptism ignoring other clear teaching that nothing we can
do can save us and that
baptism is simply an outward reflection of Christ's saving work in our lives.
There is barely a Catholic Church today where one
does not encounter the image of Christ with its white and red rays issuing from his heart: - the white cleansing
water of
baptism and confession and the red nourishing blood of the Eucharist.
Just as our physical bodies need the earth to be nourished, so
does our spiritual life need the bread and wine of Communion — and the
water of
baptism — to be nourished.