Many Jews would have received the baptism of John, which is a baptism of repentance, as well as
the water baptism for the Christian which is an outward symbol of the inner Spirit baptism.
It is for these reasons that I think that the growing and cutting of hair might be one good modern alternative to
water baptism for the new believer.
You have been indoctrinated with the false teaching of
water baptism for salvation so that every time you see the words water or baptism you think it has to do with
water baptism for salvation.
Take
water baptism for example.
Not exact matches
Latter - day Saints believe that
Baptism is essential
for salvation (John 3:5 KJV: «Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God.»).
In his Address to the Nobility of the German Nation (1520), Luther criticized the traditional distinction between the «temporal» and «spiritual» orders — the laity and the clergy — arguing that all who belong to Christ through faith,
baptism, and the Gospel shared in the priesthood of Jesus Christ and belonged «truly to the spiritual estate»: «
For whoever comes out of the
water of
baptism can boast that he is already a consecrated priest, bishop, and pope, although of course it is not seemly that just anybody shall exercise such office.»
Anabaptists rejected the practice of infant
baptism,
for instance, believing that
water baptism should be reserved
for believers who confess a faith in Jesus.
Baptism is essential
for salvation «Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of God.»
Example number three: More than a few who deny the
water baptism is
for the forgiveness of sins say that Acts 2:38 has been mistranslated.
Any other practice breaks the unity of the church, and the lack of
water baptism is actually a tradition of omission, thus not showing a greater understanding of faith, but rather a lack of reverence
for the will and intention of Jesus himself.
The Covenant
for holy
baptism, as found in the United Methodist Book of Worship, tells the biblical story of
water.
Downplaying
water baptism as something that is optional (read: merely a personal decision rather than a command but not a requirement of salvation) is to make our persecuted siblings seem foolish
for making such a decision unnecessarily.
Indeed, as these factors coalesce, it appears most likely that Jesus indeed intended
water baptism by immersion to be normative
for His disciples of all generations.
Luke went out of his way to say that both of them, Philip and the eunuch, went down into the
water for the
baptism.
Growing up Church of Christ and «
water»
baptism for salvation I was completely broadsided one day after reading about our sin problem (Romans 3:9 - 20) about God's solution ``... This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe..»
In
Baptism the
water is the instrument used
for the administration of grace but it still remains
water in the administration.
Washing in
water,
for example, is the outward sign of the sacrament of
baptism.
They say
water baptism is essential
for the believer and act as if
baptism in holy spirit is not really essential but perhaps «nice to have,» or valuable in many ways.
Christ, mystically understood, is the great fish (the Greek word
for fish is πà # À ™, an acronym which translates as Jesus Son of God, Saviour); and we, like him, are fish in the
water of
baptism as we accompany our master (see Augustine's The City of God, Book XVIII, Chapter 23).
If
water baptism was all that was important and necessary
for salvation, there would have been no need
for the disciples to wait in Jerusalem or receive the gift of holy spirit.
This prepares the way
for the one who will baptize them with the Holy Spirit and with fire — a
baptism no longer in
water, but in the wells of grace (the Holy Spirit) and in the fire that changes, transforms and purifies all.
In light of the following context, it might be preferable to understand Paul's reference to
baptisms not as
water baptism or ritualistic washings
for the dead, but as identification with the dead (cf. 10:2).
If you do not believe Jesus is the only way to heaven, then, it makes it very easy to deny that
water baptism is essential
for salvation.
So he wrote, «We know that the man we once were has been crucified with Christ
for the destruction of the sinful self... ’21 He likened the Christian's immersion under the
water at his
baptism to the death and burial of Jesus.22 The self must die before a man can rise to new life.
Hi, I'd would like to interject that if
water immersion is an absolute requirement
for the most important thing that there is
for lost people to know, then why does
water baptism not show up in all the scriptures that clearly state the Gospel message?
The symbolic significance of John's
baptism was plain, the
waters of the Jordan had been the gateway to the promised land — both
for the people of the Exodus journeys and
for those who had returned from the Babylonian Exile.
Jeremy, I get what you are saying but i don't think
for a moment that those requesting
baptism from the church can't differentiate between the
water ceremonies of the Hindu, Jews or Muslims.
For this reason, and this reason alone, it is never wrong for a person to receive water bapti
For this reason, and this reason alone, it is never wrong
for a person to receive water bapti
for a person to receive
water baptism.
If it is good enough
for Jesus to be baptised then its good enough reason
for me to as well that was why i wanted to be baptised.He says that it was necessary to fulfill all righteousness verse 15 in that sense he could have been talking of fulfilling the requirements of the law and in Jesus we fulfill the requirements of the law.I do nt believe that it is neccesary step to be saved as some of the gentile believers Peter spoke to received the holy spirit before they were baptised.Its a good picture of the old being washed away and we are raised up as a new person in Christ.When i was baptised in the holy spirit and spoke in tongues it was exactly like a
water baptism i felt the
water washing over me as it washed i just started speaking in tongues.brentnz
Following the definition of
baptism, a
water baptism indicated that a person would fully identify and immerse themselves in a new way of living
for the future.
Water baptism represented a death to the past and a new life
for the future.
I however, never heard that Jesus was sprinkled with
water for Baptism, or fulfillment for b
Baptism, or fulfillment
for baptismbaptism.
For example, John 3:5 has absolutely nothing to do with
water baptism.
Thanks, Jeremy — I disagree with your first proposition, Why
Water Baptism Can Be Practiced Today,
for precisely the reason you gave in your rebuttal.
What does this mean then
for the
water baptisms, and not just in Christianity, but also in Judaism, and in the numerous other religions around the world and throughout time that practiced some form of
baptism in
water?
I noticed you said, «But after this initial preaching of the Gospel and
water baptism followed by Spirit
baptism, the
baptism of the Spirit comes immediately upon a person believing in Jesus
for eternal life, whether or not they get
water baptized» I must loving tell you this isn't what the bible teaches about
baptism.
These sorts of adjustments to
water baptism would make the death, burial, and resurrection symbolism much more clear
for the average viewer.
It is so critical
for properly understanding
baptism to see the difference between
water baptism and Spirit
baptism.
Paul's rejection of
water baptism,
for what ever reasons, we will never find duplicated in reference to Spirit Immersion, under any circumstances.
Water baptism is a key indicator
for transitions in Acts.
John does, after all, preaching that the old way is dead, and the promised Messiah is coming who will usher in a new era of peace
for the entire world, and that those who want to participate in this new era must show it by going through the
waters of
baptism, much as the followers of Ea would have done 3000 years earlier.
But after this initial preaching of the Gospel and
water baptism followed by Spirit
baptism, the
baptism of the Spirit comes immediately upon a person believing in Jesus
for eternal life, whether or not they get
water baptized, and most often, this Spirit
baptism is no longer accompanied by signs and wonders.
Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, «Repent,
for the forgiveness of sins; but
water baptism is optional, because the thief on the cross was not baptized in
water.
How in the name of good sense and honesty, would you not believe,
Baptism for salvation is in
water?
But many Christians do not realize this basic fact, and believe that God has further requirements
for us, with
water baptism being one of them, which makes us acceptable and pleasing to God.
So if they used
water for baptism, there is nothing in the parallel to suggest that we should give it up.
That prototype
for Christian
baptism unites
water and Spirit, and what God has joined together, man ought not to separate — which the apostles did not, even with Gentile converts.
Yet
for all our disagreements on
baptism, and
for all the draconian ways in which our ancestors sometimes dealt with them (drowning,
for instance), the most striking feature of the baptismal
waters is not the way they divide but the way they unite.
For example, in the sacrament of
baptism there is apparently a special virtue or power in the symbolic washing of a penitent with
water.
For most religions,
water baptism was a form of ritual washing and purification before a particular ceremony, sacrifice, or religious service.