Increased amounts of gases such as carbon dioxide make the atmosphere absorb long -
wavelength radiation from the surface more strongly and also emit more radiation back down towards the surface.
Not exact matches
When the team looked at the overall balance between the
radiation upward
from the
surface of the ice sheet and the
radiation both upward and downward
from the upper levels of the atmosphere across all infrared
wavelengths over the course of a year, they found that in central Antarctica the
surface and lower atmosphere, against expectation, actually lose more energy to space if the air contains greenhouse gases, the researchers report online and in a forthcoming Geophysical Research Letters.
The
wavelengths of co2 absorption in absorption spectrums that are relevant, clearly show how the interaction between co2 and heat
from the
surface result in a large decrease in the amount of
radiation.
Because the
wavelength of emitted EM
radiation varies with the temperature of the source, it does so in the form of longer - wave IR than that received
from the Sun — the Earth's
surface is significantly cooler than that of the Sun.
Adding CO2 does not (at least not before the climate response, which is generally stratospheric cooling and
surface and tropospheric warming for increasing greenhouse gases) decrease the
radiation to space in the central portion of the band because at those
wavelengths, CO2 is so opaque that much or most
radiation to space is coming
from the stratosphere, and adding CO2 increases the heights
from which
radiation is able to reach space, and the stratospheric temperatures generally increase with increasing height.
In the context of the real atmosphere, an observer looking down
from space will see Planckian
radiation upwelling at the
surface temperature for those
wavelengths where the air is very transparent.
The effect where, adding a «new» absorption band and increasing the absorption, there may initially be warming of the colder layers, etc, followed by a stage of upper level or near - TOA cooling — this includes the warming
from absorption
from increased
radiation from the
surface + troposphere — which will be greater when more of the spectrum, especially near
wavelengths where the emitted spectral flux change is greatest, has a greater amount of absorption.
Back
radiation in the far infra - red
from the Greenhouse Effect occurs at
wavelengths centred around 10 micrometres, well off the scale of this chart, and can not penetrate the ocean beyond the
surface «skin».
The Earth receives energy
from the Sun in the form of visible light and ultraviolet
radiation, which is then re-radiated away
from the
surface as thermal
radiation in infrared
wavelengths.
Btw, if anyone can provide any evidence of more than 10 watts per square meter of any kind
radiation from the Sun [or
from anywhere] other than the energy emitting
from the Sun in
wavelength in the range 250 to 2500 nm and intersecting the earth
surface, I would find this very fascinating.
A consequence of the model you have proposed would seem to be that the «back
radiation» due to CO2 interception of
surface emitted (
from solid or liquid continuum thermal
radiation can consist only of the specific
wavelengths that the CO2 absorbed in the first place; since you say no net energy is exchanged between the CO2 and the Atmosphere.
Radiation comes in
from the sun (solar
radiation at short
wavelengths), and every body radiates according to its temperature (proportional to the fourth power of absolute temperature), so that on Earth we, and the
surface and atmosphere radiate at infrared
wavelengths.
What you find is that in the region between 8 and 14 microns the equivalent
radiation temperature is the
surface temeprature of earth (which means the
radiation comes
from the
surface — nothing else is warm enough) whereas at the GHG absorption
wavelengths the equivalent
radiation temperature is that of the tropopause.
Testimony to this assumption is the term that has been employed for more than a century to describe the
radiation in all
wavelengths received
from the Sun: the so - called «solar constant,» whose value at the mean Sun - Earth distance is a little over 1 1/3 kilowatts per square meter of
surface.
5) Thus the presence of water vapour and CO2 means that less energy is radiated into space
from within their characteristic
radiation bands so the temperature of the earth's
surface has to increase in order for energy radiated at other
wavelengths to increase to compensate.
If one looks at the satellite measurements of
radiation from the earth you see that at certain
wavelengths the
radiation is characteristic of the temperature of the earth's
surface.
Net result of all this Photon energy
from 15um Earth
surface up going to increase in temperature of atmosphere and increasingly more
radiation in
wavelengths > 15um.
The
surface provides «
surface forward
radiation» or «
surface upward
radiation» or «
surface away -
from - the -
surface long -
wavelength EM
radiation» to the atmosphere (350 W / m).
I understand the superficial attractiveness behind the proposition that the atmoshpere contains some gases that are largely transparent to incoming solar
radiation and therefore the majority of this solar
radiation finds its way through the atmosphere to the
surface whereupon it heats the
surface and this heat is, inter alia, radiated
from the
surface at a different
wavelength at which
wavelength the atmosphere (or some gases within the atmosphere) is not transparent such that some of this radiated enerrgy is «trapped» thereby effectively warming the planet.
Ira — regarding your summary comment 4) at May 8, 2011 at 7:51 pm my comment — NO, the atmosphere does NOT emit LWIR across a distribution of
wavelengths like a blackbody, see my earlier comment at Dave in Delaware says: May 8, 2011 at 7:00 am Ira Glickstein, PhD says: «4) As I understand it, the ~ 15μm
radiation from the
Surface to the Atmosphere is absorbed by H2O and CO2 molecules which, when excited, bump into nitrogen and oxygen and other air molecules, and heat the air.
I did not claim that the Atmosphere, after being excited by
radiation coming up
from the
Surface, emits down towards the
Surface and up towards Space exactly like a black body, just that it emits at a variety of
wavelengths.
Both, however, are efficient at intercepting outgoing infrared
radiation from the Earth's
surface and atmosphere The disparity is due to the different
wavelengths of incoming solar energy and outgoing infrared energy.
Presumbly that's converted into
radiation by clouds, dust particles, etc which are radiating in roughly the same
wavelength's as they absorb
radiation from earth's
surface.
The CO2 molecules allow the shorter -
wavelength rays
from the Sun to enter the atmosphere and strike the Earth's
surface, but they do not allow much of the long - wave
radiation reradiated
from the
surface to escape into space.
But you still have the whole broad
wavelength range of thermal
radiation, so that is either directly
from the
surface; so should exhibit the
surface Temperature characteristic (spectrum); or it is emitted
from the atmosphere.