Of course, it is precisely one of those exceptions that is most concerning to some of us, and Archer himself noted that, «The Siberian margin is one example of a place
where methane hydrate is melting today, presumably at an accelerated rate in response to anthropogenic warming.
The zone
where methane hydrate remained stable now shrank.
In some parts of the Arctic Ocean, the shallow regions near continents may be one of the settings
where methane hydrates are breaking down now due to warming processes over the past 15,000 years.
As countries produce more conventional and unconventional fuels, the planet is warming in areas
where methane hydrates exist.
And note their Section 4 — contemplating what happens if deep warm water currents change in a way that changes the current temperature in areas
where methane hydrates are in equilibrium, suggesting the possibility of a rapid large scale release of methane gas.
Not exact matches
At a lower pressure — approximately 4 GPa —
methane and molecular hydrogen interact, forming co-crystals (
where two molecules together create one crystal structure), and at 6 GPa,
hydrates — CO-crystals made of
methane and water — are formed.
Natural
methane hydrates were first discovered by Russian scientists in the late 1960s in Siberian permafrost —
where the ground is so cold that
hydrates can form at shallower depths and at lower pressures than under the sea — and then, in the 1970s, at the bottom of the Black Sea.
But no matter
where researchers now drill under the sea, they find
methane, often in the form of a
hydrate.
Exponentially less
methane would be able to reach the atmosphere in waters that are thousands of feet deep at the very edge of the shallow seas near continents, which is the area of the ocean
where the bulk of
methane hydrates are,» Sparrow says.
Even
where methane increases are observed at the ocean surface, scientists need better data to determine whether emissions come from
hydrates or other seafloor sources.
Beyond that, more than 95 percent of the world's
methane hydrates exist in deep - ocean settings
where it is unlikely water would ever heat up enough to significantly destabilize them.
Worldwide, particularly in deeply buried permafrost and in high - latitude ocean sediments
where pressures are high and temperatures are below freezing, icy deposits called
hydrates hold immense amounts of
methane (SN: 6/25/05, p. 410).
The only place
where melting
methane hydrates appear to be releasing
methane to the atmosphere is on the Siberian margin,
where hydrates associated with the permafrost relict from the last glaciation release
methane to the shallow water column of the shelf waters.
I'd love to know what they did take into account in attempting to model that period — must include astronomical location, sun's behavior, best estimates about a lot of different conditions —
where the continents were, what the ocean circulation was doing, whether there had been a recent geological period that laid down a lot of
methane hydrates available to be tipped by Pliocene warming into bubbling out rapidly.
The most likely explanation is the mass release of
methane from sediments on the sea floor,
where the gas was sequestered, as it is now, in a solid form as
methane hydrate.
The only place
where melting
methane hydrates appear to be releasing
methane to the atmosphere is on the Siberian margin,
where hydrates associated with the permafrost relict from the last glaciation release
methane to the shallow water column of the shelf waters.
I just go to the section
where they get into discussing Arctic seabed
methane in more detail, and the conclusion of that section is actually: «In summary, the ocean
methane hydrate pool has strong potential to amplify the human CO2 release from fossil fuel combustion over time scales of decades to centuries.»
The exceptions are
hydrate in permafrost soils, especially those coastal areas, and in shallow ocean sediments
where methane gas is focused by subsurface migration.»
Plumes of rising
methane bubbles have been mapped off the coast of Svalbard to
where the water is about 400 meters deep — the edge of the stability zone for
hydrates.
Elsewhere in the same paper, Archer describes how this could come from the
methane trapped in the ice being smoothed through «diffusion within the fern or heterogeneous bubble closure depth,» or simply through the methane sampling not being dense enough, where the maxima of release could be overlooked [Archer, Methane hydrate stability and anthropogenic climate change, Biogeosciences,
methane trapped in the ice being smoothed through «diffusion within the fern or heterogeneous bubble closure depth,» or simply through the
methane sampling not being dense enough, where the maxima of release could be overlooked [Archer, Methane hydrate stability and anthropogenic climate change, Biogeosciences,
methane sampling not being dense enough,
where the maxima of release could be overlooked [Archer,
Methane hydrate stability and anthropogenic climate change, Biogeosciences,
Methane hydrate stability and anthropogenic climate change, Biogeosciences, 2007].
Methane hydrate in ocean seabed sediments is a potential source of methane (CH4) to the atmosphere, where CH4 has potential to act as a powerful greenhou
Methane hydrate in ocean seabed sediments is a potential source of
methane (CH4) to the atmosphere, where CH4 has potential to act as a powerful greenhou
methane (CH4) to the atmosphere,
where CH4 has potential to act as a powerful greenhouse gas.
Methane Hydrates» Melt - was first observed to be accelerating during the last decade, with sufficient ocean warming reaching the hydrates in the sea bed of continental shelves off Norway and eastern Canada, where the hydrate stocks are vulnerable to newly warmed c
Hydrates» Melt - was first observed to be accelerating during the last decade, with sufficient ocean warming reaching the
hydrates in the sea bed of continental shelves off Norway and eastern Canada, where the hydrate stocks are vulnerable to newly warmed c
hydrates in the sea bed of continental shelves off Norway and eastern Canada,
where the
hydrate stocks are vulnerable to newly warmed currents.
James Hansen, adjunct professor, Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences, Columbia University and former Head of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies claims the melting ice could lead to the point
where ocean floor warming triggers massive release of
methane hydrate, i.e.,
methane molecules trapped in ice crystals, which would become a «tipping point.»
Vast quantities of
methane hydrates are also found throughout the world just below the seabed, in locations
where water depths are greater than a few hundred metres.
«The most likely process
where this happens - and there is geological evidence that it has happened in the past - is when the
methane gas
hydrate layer in the sediment destabilises on a slope.
Can you point out to me
where the record demonstrates anything near the kind of rapidity of changes being claimed anecdotally for
methane hydrate dissolution?
Even on the Siberian continental margin,
where water temperatures are colder than the global average, and
where the sediment column retains the cold imprint from its exposure to the atmosphere during the last glacial time 20,000 years ago, any
methane hydrate must be buried under at least 200 m of water or sediment.
It would be quite a coincidence, Berndt said, to find
methane emissions in a place
where the water is warming and
where there are known
hydrate deposits — and to have those three things be completely unrelated.
Warming bottom waters in deeper parts of the ocean,
where surface sediment is much colder than freezing and the
hydrate stability zone is relatively thick, would not thaw
hydrates near the sediment surface, but downward heat diffusion into the sediment column would thin the stability zone from below, causing basal
hydrates to decompose, releasing gaseous
methane.
R&D ers have been talking up natural gas extraction from
methane hydrates — a solid form of the greenhouse gas, found tucked away beneath the sea floor
where low temperature and high pressure keep it stable.
The work being done by the USGS is intended to not only discover
where large concentrations of
methane gas
hydrates are located, but also to determine the best method for safely extracting the
methane trapped in the
hydrate.
RE
methane hydrates, here's a NYT article that claims we don't have to worry about the deeper ones for 1000s of years because the ocean is slow in warming, esp down at the bottom
where the
hydrates are (tho some scientist aren't sure about that): http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/20/arctic-
methane-is-catastrophe-imminent/?partner=rss&emc=rss
RealClimate is wonderful, and an excellent source of reliable information.As I've said before,
methane is an extremely dangerous component to global warming.Comment # 20 is correct.There is a sharp melting point to frozen
methane.A huge increase in the release of
methane could happen within the next 50 years.At what point in the Earth's temperature rise and the rise of co2 would a huge
methane melt occur?No one has answered that definitive issue.If I ask you all at what point would huge amounts of extra
methane start melting, i.e at what temperature rise of the ocean near the Artic
methane ice deposits would the
methane melt, or at what point in the rise of co2 concentrations in the atmosphere would the
methane melt, I believe that no one could currently tell me the actual answer as to
where the sharp melting point exists.Of course, once that tipping point has been reached, and billions of tons of
methane outgass from what had been locked stores of
methane, locked away for an eternity, it is exactly the same as the burning of stored fossil fuels which have been stored for an eternity as well.And even though
methane does not have as long a life as co2, while it is around in the air it can cause other tipping points, i.e. permafrost melting, to arrive much sooner.I will reiterate what I've said before on this and other sites.
Methane is a hugely underreported, underestimated risk.How about RealClimate attempts to model exactly what would happen to other tipping points, such as the melting permafrost, if indeed a huge increase in the melting of the methal
hydrate ice WERE to occur within the next 50 years.My amateur guess is that the huge, albeit temporary, increase in
methane over even three or four decades might push other relevent tipping points to arrive much, much, sooner than they normally would, thereby vastly incresing negative feedback mechanisms.We KNOW that quick, huge, changes occured in the Earth's climate in the past.See other relevent posts in the past from Realclimate.Climate often does not change slowly, but undergoes huge, quick, changes periodically, due to negative feedbacks accumulating, and tipping the climate to a quick change.Why should the danger from huge potential
methane releases be vievwed with any less trepidation?
The commentary speculates
methane hydrates, ice - like substances
where the gas is stored in the East Siberian Arctic shelf (among other places), could unleash a 50 gigatonne «pulse» of
methane between 2015 - 2025 (leading to an atmospheric concentration six times current levels) as undersea permafrost thaws.
Down
where the
hydrates are, there is neither sulfate nor oxygen, so there's no way for bacteria to make a living feeding on the
methane.