Winning the ball in midfield, maybe a tall strong player is a positive thing, but, he also has to be very good and doing something with it once he has.
he is playing back a bit further than a traditional 4 -3-3, but he has a 3 man defense behind him so he doesn't have to spend so much time focusing on defending and can use that time to
win balls in the midfield and push forward.
He often sets the tone for his side as
he wins the ball in midfield areas before launching a Manchester United attack.
As stated before, in the 4 -5-1 Gueye is left alone in front of the defence, which means he doesn't get the opportunity to push forward and
win the ball in the midfield as he has to worry about leaving space in front of his centre - backs.
Not exact matches
The visitors must embark on 50 - 50 challenges if with clear intentions of
winning it especially the aerial
balls which can be crucial mostly
in midfield in the entire course of the game.
the truth is that arsenal are not a coherent team anymore... not clear what their footballing strategy is... seem to have given up on passing game for counterattack which might work
in odd games but wont
win us anything unless we have a
midfield that can hold on to
ball because we will be under the kosh most of game and will eventually buckle... but the problem was clear at half time
in this gane and wenger did nt do anything about it... and if he is paid for anything it is to make those kind of critical decisions....
After
winning the
ball back
in their own penalty area, Palace's defense found Bolasie, who beat the Liverpool
midfield and Glen Johnson by himself.
What made Foy's disastrous decision even more hard to fathom was the fact that just ten minutes earlier the situation was reversed and Evra fairly
won the
ball from the German
midfielder and was through on goal with support either side of him, when the referee decided to blow his whistle and get attention for Ballack who was
in fact perfectly fine.
Deployed
in the anchoring
midfield role, Mascherano has made countless tackles, passed the
ball well, and
won back possession with interceptions.
Today
winning teams have 9 or even 10 players, who press and defend as soon as the
ball is lost, and especially the
midfielders and wingers are «2 way players», who are nearly all are as good
in defending as
in attacking.
We had a World Class GK behind a Defence that he trusted.We had
midfielders who could
win the
ball and use it.We had wide men with vision AND pace.We had a NO10 who was a genius and strikers
in all those years who could deliver.
Ozil is a luxury when played with Ramsey and Xhakha as it means there is very little
ball winning and no control of the game going on
in the
midfield area thus exposing the backline.
He needs to be played
in an attacking role where he doesn't need to go to ground trying to
win the
ball back from deep
midfield.
We actually have a strong back four + a good goalkeeper, but our
midfield is so bad
in protecting and
winning the
ball back it is a joke.
Statistically Goretzka is the best
ball winning midfielder out of those
in the list, I'm so glad you listed him there.
Kondogbia has pace, is aggressive, is less injury prone, and tracks back to
win balls a lot when lost
in midfield!
I could have given a few Arsenal players the Man of the Match award for yesterday's hard fought
win at Newcastle, with Cazorla's probing and patient passing as well as Oxlade - Chamberlain's direct approach and shot for the goal being key factors, but for me the anchoring presence of Coquelin
in midfield and his ability to keep the
ball and his cool amid concerted pressure was brilliant.
He needs to look at gerrard and see how he plays his game or even xabi alonso, they control the
midfield but not by holding on the
ball forever and trying to
win every challenge, wilshere looked good
in englands last couple of games just picking that
ball up and pinging it around the pitch
We truly need Ramsey though he makes foolish decision with the
ball he doesn't look like he's serious on the
ball he works hard for the team tirelessly, Ramsey is very good
in marking and
winning possession for the team I'm pretty sure arsene will keep him
in the team if we can get a
midfielder like kante then our
midfield is surely balanced
Long term problems are that our team doesn't know how to
win the
ball back except when it's deep
in our
midfield in which case it's defenders or DMF
winning the
ball, or Sanchez.
I still don't understand people's obsession with boxing players
in to a specific role... The whole «true DM» is a dying breed, even Coquelin is arguably something else considering the advanced positions he takes up often
in front of Santi and takes major risks
in winning the
ball back for us... IMO, the reason Coquelin has had such a successful integration into the first team is that he focussed incredibly hard on the basics of his role first and foremost before adding other elements to his game (long -
balls, driving runs into space, more aggressive
ball movement
in general) it's not rocket science to tell a player to curb the attacking side of their game and focus primarily on defence before attack... Nor is it that hard to see that playing
in a
midfield pairing with either Ramsey or Cazorla is going to be different as well.
A steady presence
in midfield as he overcame some early sloppiness on the
ball to provide the hosts with important defensive coverage to
win the
midfield battle.
Powerful and explosive attack wise while players like Perez, Sanchez and Welbeck will
win the
ball back for us when not
in possesion Basically the five
in midfield will defend together but when
in attack Xhaka stays back.
We need some
midfielders that can be strong and battle for us!!!! al our
midfield are forward thinking and there is such a big hole from them and the back 4, It does not matter who we have playing at the back we will always get attacked with goals against us with the style of
midfielders we have, Let get some steel
in the middle of the park, Lets bring
in some players that other teams feel fear playing against us, Look back at our best teams and we have always had players that will get back and cover and can tackle and
win balls in the middle of the park, So many of our
midfield now can, t even get back never mind
win the
ball back when we need it, It is NOT about the price of players it is all about buying players that can balance a good strong team, At time we need to buy a player who is not a star but is good at doing what we need him to do,
Also, if Ramsey were fit, I'd definitely have him
in my first eleven... Ramsey could not play with Coquelin at the base of
midfield because until most recently, he needed to have a
ball carrier right next to him right after
winning the
ball and
in most cases Ramsey was always very far from him but Cazorla is far more disciplined
in positioning hence why «Coqzorla» works so well however with Xhaka, its quite different because he can carry and distribute his own
balls and frees Ramsey up to roam which is where he thrives best, it is no coincidence that Ramsey had his best season playing with Arteta but while Arteta could also carry and distribute his own
balls he is no
ball winner like Xhaka or Coquelin.
Well im not
in a wonderland he has his failings as we all do and great teams find a way to
win good teams sit where we are 6 -5-4 but thats besides the point and it would be nice if your aunty had bolocks cause then we d be second but ive watched the games were an offensive team most the time although were terrible
in the pissing rain but for the most part the game plans have worked weve created chances quality scoring chances one after the other problem is for me the finishing unless we sit back with 9 man behind the
ball or ten when you push forward you will give up a goal if you lousy forwards fail to finish the set ups have been there this year but our strikers have failed to kill the games if we create quality chances and grab leads
in the first 60 minutes like we have for the most part and
in those games those games should of been killed even if we give a goal or two alongside the strategy but we failed to hit multiple should be goals we tried laca we'll see abou auba although hes a bit lazy so far but we'll see but we've lacked that quality
in front goal a player the chances have been there im looking at the failure of the strikers and maybe that is his fault but monreal has scored as many goals recently as our strikers and thats sad our defenders or a
midfielder will score and our stikers cant tally one
in th first 60 mins of a game alongside them then were tired for last 40 give them hope there still only down one and we rue our missed chances while they push thats where iv been frustrated with this season not the tactics but the finishing
The issue is that to make the team successful around a forward line of Lacazette and Aubameyang, Arsenal need a DM to sit
in front of the back 3 or 4 and at least one hardworking, hard tackling,
ball winning midfielder.
However with Arsenal Ozil often plays wide, rather than centrally
in mid field and is not supported by robust
ball winning / defensive
midfielders, as he is when playing for the German national team.
Because our
midfielders are not organized and disciplined enough
in pressing and defending, it gives us 2 problems: 1 — Our defense is under too much pressure 2 — We don't get enough «easy» goals by
winning the
ball back close to the opponents goal
Granted BD had fresher legs but the easy way which they
won back the
ball by forcing our
midfielders in a blind alley was really depressing, if you going to camp out on you 18 yard box you must have a release valve or 2 which i though was ALEX and DANNY.
I didn't watch the match last night as I was on the field playing I ran my heels off I was
in their faces I was angry I got a well - deserved yellow and could have been sent off later on I intercepted a good few
balls and assisted with 2 goals and
won the match From the highlights and the analysis I understand the Arsenal were weak
in midfield the Arsenal needs an enforcer someone just like me a motivator and
in the face of the opponents a thorn
in the side I also believe MR wenger was at fault we all knew we would be weak
in defence the least MR wenger should have had is a strong fresh
midfield after all we had a tough encounter with city + traveling why didn't he use Rosciky, Carzola and Campbell On a different note I like chamberland stature he is tall and has pace and energy why not adapt him to the defensive
midfield position with clear emphasis to be
in the opponents face The arsenal and Mr wenger need to wake up fast now we have this weekend to prepare for Chelsea if we believe we are title contenders
I don't think his job is to initiate attack, he's main job is to
win the
ball back and play a simple pass to our more offensive players, and he is not bad
in possession as d stat and u re suggest, and I don't see any tactical reason behind carzola being backward order than ramsey being injured, nobody initiate our attack better than ramsey and dats d work of a box to box
midfielder and not the defensive
midfielder.
In addition to playing splendid passes from midfield, the Welshman was also putting his foot in to win the ball and was also seen making those late runs from midfield and getting into great positions, attributes that were so characteristic of him last seaso
In addition to playing splendid passes from
midfield, the Welshman was also putting his foot
in to win the ball and was also seen making those late runs from midfield and getting into great positions, attributes that were so characteristic of him last seaso
in to
win the
ball and was also seen making those late runs from
midfield and getting into great positions, attributes that were so characteristic of him last season.
We didn't
win the
ball back
in the
midfield and we lost it too many times there because of misplaced passes and we were too cautious going forward and sat back and rely only on counter-attacks which ended with losing possession.
Liverpool will close us down very quickly and move fast with numbers so we wont have enough time on the
ball the
midfield and defense most be well tuned with the
midfield and the out field players must defend and go for the
ball straight away if they loose it so the essence for the liverpool match is one touch football for the
ball to end
in their net direct football we did it with the 8 0
win
To me, i feel xhaka is well needed
in dis new formation (d 3 -4-3) n moreso, he is a typical arsenal kind of player... can hold on to d
ball n distribute it with precision... all we need to succeed with dis new formation is to get a combative football playing
midfielder dat can
win d
ball n move with it...
in d mould of naby keita, verrati n even Everton's gana can do d job or better still, take renato sanchez on loan... doubt if he is going to get enough playing time as he would want at bayern dis season again coz of their luxury of
midfield player, not sure if he will be
in d 1st team with vidal n thiago alcantara unbenchable n anceloti having a soft spot for kimmich (just as wenger has for Ramsey) I think if we propose a loan deal for renato sanchez dah bayern will grant it
As much as I'd like to see Chambers
in the middle (provided he is mentally recovered from Sunday), I'm much more interested
in seeing if there is any change
in the team's mentality — do we collectively compete to
win the
ball back, if we are up with 20 minutes to go will our wing backs and box2box
midfielder play more pragmatically etc. etc..
He is good at turning on the
ball so is great for starting moves
in the
midfield and has a knack for beating players if we
win quick turn over.
here is the simple truth a team that has walcott giroud campbell merteshaker flamini and ramsey starting wont
win trophies... not one is a top class player
in their position... having two on the park on regular basis is not a problem and three can probably still ensure 4th place... if we want to go beyond that we need to bring
in two top class players
in to the
midfield and attack (thats
in addition to the quality returnees we do have) and to increase the work rate particulalry when we do nt have the
ball by a good ammount... that was true 3 years ago 3 months ago and 3 days ago... wenger had the nerve recently to say not signing an outfielder
in the summer had been vindicated... the man has been drinking his own kool aid
Key for me is how aggressive we are... We need to be
winning the 50 - 50
balls in the
midfield and surging up field
in packs while leaving key areas covered to protect against the counter attack.
Arsenal look so much better with two
ball winning central
midfielder's, as opposed to the usual one or even none
in some cases!
You mentioned N'zonzi is good at taking
ball off players and standing strong which is as important for a defensive
midfielder to have
in terms of
winning possession and defending.
We lack any form of presence
in midfield, no true
ball winning mid we were just outmuscled throughout the game.
She and Long were
ball magnets
in defensive
midfield, she quickly adapted to the weather and played a number of nice through
balls throughout the game, and
won several great tackles including one of her patented moves where she pops up with the
ball and is immediately off
in the opposite direction
in the 33rd minute.
Romeu has become Southampton's chief
ball - winner
in midfield winning 56 tackles this season.
We started brightly enough, pressing Everton
in their third of the pitch and not allowing Howard, Jagielka or Stones time on the
ball to pick out Lukaku and build from there, or play through their
midfield, this meant we were
winning back possession regularly enough and dominating the game.
Atlanta
midfielder Darlington Nagbe
won a botched pass
in the
midfield and set up a long
ball to Hector Villalba, who nutmegged defender Steven Birnbaum.
Player like Saido Berahino, a young proven goal scorer
in the Premier League, Sven Bender and Christophe Kramer who are
ball winning defensive
midfielders, the type that Pochettino loves, and all these players show to us, the fans, that the manager is finally picking players and the board are going after them and pursuing them.
Dier is really playing well at the holding
midfield position, but
in modern football the holding
midfielder needs to do a bit more than just
win the
ball.
Born on 18th July 1987, the
ball -
winning defensive
midfielder began his career at Racing Club de Avellaneda, making his senior debut
in the Argentine...