Looks like there should be a separation of church and business to go along
with the separation of church and state.
Jefferson later wrote that it was
with the separation of church and state in mind that they wrote the First Amendment into the Constitution.
Essentially conservative, he early came into collision
with the separation of Church and State in France and Portugal.
«Christians comment on issues but
with separation of church and state should primarily speak as citizens» - this is a GROSS misunderstanding of this ideal.
Christians comment on issues but
with separation of church and state should primarily speak as citizens.
It could be that folks,
with Separation of Church and State in mind, may want a president that is religious neutral, that's all.
I think the concern is
with separation of church and state, and if that's possible with a Mormon in a high public office.
I think that, in keeping
with the separation of church and state (which is a good policy, I think), we should not observe ANY religious holidays, including Good Friday, which is widely observed by public schools throughout the US.
But today, in a country
with Separation of Church and State, they can't use torture and execution to preserve their faith.
The designers of the Const * itution were brilliant and knew how important it was for future generations to not view their country as one based on Christianity, but as one based simply on freedom, and so they were very careful to put their own religious views aside and make a strong point
with separation of church and state.
It has nothing to do
with the separation of church and state.
Not to confuse the psychological issues
with the separation of church and state, we obviously need to keep religious interference and favoritism to a minimum in government, while shifting the societal paradigm to discourage fervent religiosity while fostering evolved secular morals and ethics.
This article has nothing to do
with separation of Church and State....
Well, when you took religion out of America
with the separation of church and state, no one particularly cares about religion any more.
In the meantime in the USA a country
with separation of Church and State, there is total polarization between «believers» VS non believers ENOUGH already.
There was no problem
with separation of church and state when GWB opened the floodgate for federal funding of faith based NPs.
Not exact matches
I'm an Obama - volunteer, liberal Democrat,
separation of church and state, Jewish mom, master's degree in counseling - holder who's worked
with Special Olympics athletes
and other special needs kids.
The religious among us keep trying to chip away at the
separation of church and state by making people recite the pledge
of allegiance
with the God clause, installing religious symbols
and displays on public property, holding prayer breakfasts for politicians, berating the removal
of prayer in public schools, trying to pass laws limiting women's access to birth control,
and trying to get an amendment passed outlawing abortion (since in their view God creates a soul the moment a sperm enters an egg).
On the other hand, the islamic world lacks a single voice to answer
with a single
and credible voice to the concerns
of the secular american society (which is very concerned about the lack
of the concept
of separation between
church and state in large part
of the islamic world).
Because they understood the exercise
of state power to be inconsistent
with the
church's identity
and mission, Anabaptists also advocated for the strict
separation of church and state.
So I guess
separation of church and state does not apply as long as
church goes along
with public opinion.
Ya know, as much
of an idiot as Obama has proven himself to be over the last four years, a Republican
with a good head on their shoulders could easily take the office next year... that being said... these Republican idiots that are currently throwing their hat in the ring for the presidency have forgoten the importance
of separation of church and state.
For a country
with supposed
separation of church and state, I've never seen so much religious interference in politics in my life...
This was coupled
with a clear affirmation
of the
separation of church and state in the constitution.
If you'll be eating lunch at your desk today, you might enjoy watching one
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Church and State:
Separation Anxieties» includes an hour - long panel discussion
with Judge Michael McConnell, Holly Hollman, Prof. Richard....
A candidate isn't going to get anywhere
with most conservative evangelicals if they support a woman's right to chose, or if the candidate supports strict
separation of church and state,
and maybe even opposition to teaching Creationism is going to lose their vote.
In a calmer, more reflective tone years later, Madison expressed satisfaction that the idea
of separation of church and state that he promoted
and built into the 1st Amendment allowed those
with different beliefs to flourish:
In recent
church -
state controversies, however, the ideal
of separation has come in conflict
with the wider
and more important ideal
of religious freedom.
you always got a few bad apples in atheism... etc etc.... almost lke youre throwing the baby out
with the bathwater... besides... most complaints
of this comes from atheists who yell
separation of church and state...
Anecdotally, I know
of many young adults who have expressed disenchantment
with the politicization
of Christianity
and who recognize the importance
of maintaining a
separation between
church and state.
Fishon, I'll call you what you are: you are a troll
and a bully,
and the RIGHT
churches with absolute standards are full
of bullies like you who are not content to follow your exacting standards in your
churches; you are trying to make total strangers in the world at large subject through them in the secular courts
and laws, flipping your middle fingers at the principle
of constitutional
separation of church and state.
Why, then, was the country so quick to embrace, often
with religious fervor, the notion that
separation of church and state is a necessary precondition
of religious liberty?
One
of the primary reasons we have
separation of church and state in the U.S. is because
of the inherent Christian need to dirty up the lives
of others
with trying to prepare them for some alleged next life.
The problem is that in a country
with the legal
separation of church and state, the
state can not suppress religious belief.
No
separation of church and state problem
with that??
The United
States is
and always has been a secular nation
with a clear
separation of church and state.
However,
with the doctrine
of the
separation of church and state, the West found itself having to deal
with death, but unable completely to do so within the limited discourse
of military force
and the public will.
For a country that is suppose to have
separation of church and state the U.S. is certainly obsessed
with the faith
of their politicians.
We are often told in portentous tones that these words do not occur in the First Amendment (or anywhere else in the Constitution), that there has never been «absolute»
separation of church and state (seemingly
with the implication that therefore there shouldn't be any such
separation),
and that the concept has become outmoded
with the demise
of the quaint notion
of limited government
and the expansion
of the activities
of both governments
and churches.
Nevertheless, there is clear evidence that TM is a religion in secular clothing,
and for this reason an alarm should be sounded for the political inroads it is making in violation
of the principle
of separation of church and state and for its claim to the innocent that it is a technique compatible
with all faiths.
That is somewhat promising — it hopefully means that 58 % don't really care —
and rightfully so,
with that little thing called
separation of church and state.
If a wall
of separation is erected between religion
and the
state (
and its schools), that wall will prove to be a tomb in which
church,
state,
and schools will decay
with a civilization that has lost its soul.
Most Americans assume that the
separation of church and state is a fundamental principle deeply rooted in American constitutionalism; that the First Amendment was intended to ensure that government does not involve itself
with religion (
and vice versa);
and that...
Yet every time FFRF or the ACLU acts on a violation
of the
separation of church and state, the Christians cry «persecution» even
with a
church on every corner to which they can go any day
of the week, pray at home, in the street, put fish plaques on their cars, whatever.
Separation of Church and State was something the ancestors came to this land
with, but that concept is dead.
I agree
with some
of those below, there should be a
separation between
Church and State.
Indeed, as a free nation,
with a TRUE
Separation of Church and State we can go forward now, knowing that NOBODY will ever give a mormon a second chance for the White House.
LRT: why would you be more concerned about
separation of church and state with a Mormon in office vs a Jew, an Evangelical Christian, etc..?
Those who advocate a complete
separation of church and state,
with no influence whatsoever
of the
church upon the
state, are forgetting our country's history.
The U.S. had provided Russia
with the model for a true
separation of church and state, such as Russia had never known.