Eating ham: Leviticus 11:7 - 8 Getting a tattoo: Leviticus 19:28 Rounded haircuts: Leviticus 19:27 Have injured private parts: Deuteronomy 23:1 Consulting psychics: Leviticus 19:31 Gossiping: Leviticus 19:16 Wives helping out their husbands during a fight: Deuteronomy 25:11 - 12 Children cursing their parents: Exodus 21:17 Getting remarried after a divorce: Mark 10:11 - 12 Working on the sabbath: Exodus 31:14 - 15
Woman speaking in churches: 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35 Eating shrimp, lobster, or other assorted seafood: Leviticus 10 - 11
And it is no use quoting St. Paul on
women speaking in Church as the reason for a male priesthood.
As far as
women speaking in the church, mayby there was some specific problems within the church he was addressing at that time, which were as a result of women speaking, Perhaps it isn't that they shouldn't today.
(I couldn't help but notice that it all began with
a woman speaking in church!)
Not exact matches
American Association of University
Women CEO Kim
Churches says when such behavior happens
in the workplace it's an issue everyone should
speak out against.
(Ephesians 5:22 - 24) «Let your
women keep silence
in the
churches: for it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
St. Paul
speaks in his letters of the invaluable contribution of
women collaborators his ministry
in building the early
Church.
Why is it that complementarian
women are forbidden from assuming leadership
in churches, and yet permitted to
speak?
I once
spoke with a young
woman who was raised
in a very liberal mainline tradition who told me she left the
church because, «I wasn't learning anything there about tolerance, love, and good stewardship of the planet that I wasn't learning at my public high school, so what was the point?»
And it is a dismissive, hurtful way to
speak about
women, who Piper seems to have forgotten were also created
in the image of God, were appointed by God as leaders at critical times
in the history of Israel and the
Church, and were the first to whom Jesus appeared when he inaugurated his new Kingdom on Resurrection Day.
I'll start: I feel most at home
in a
church that 1) takes its mission to care for the poor and marginalized seriously, 2) does not make assumptions about its congregation's political positions nor emphasizes political action to begin with, 3)
speaks of Scripture
in terms of its ability to «equip us for every good work,» 4) embraces diversity (theologically, ethnically, etc.) and allows
women to assume leadership positions.
Is it sinful for a
woman to
speak in church?
Patti has also
spoken for
women's groups, prison ministries, and
in many
churches in India with her husband, Tom.
I had finally found a
church that emphasized care for the poor, that studied Scripture, that celebrated an end to nationalism, war, and hate, that provided equal opportunities
women in leadership, that stayed out of politics, and that
spoke of God's inclusive love for all people... and it was
in New Jersey... and it was Reformed!
I certainly appreciate your confidence
in me, but here's the thing: There's a double - standard out there
in which a
woman's critique of patriarchy tends to get discounted as nothing more than the rants of an «angry feminist,» and, truth be told, I've grown a bit weary of hearing that charge each time I
speak out about this disturbing trend
in the evangelical
church.
The
Church,
in speaking about
women, still has lots more to say.
Women in the
Church have been
speaking out against sexual abuse by
speaking up.
She
speaks and writes about a wide range of topics — from the pro-life movement, to
women in the
church, to movies and pop culture, to religious philosophy and faith.
The young man cited I Corinthians 14:34 - 35 «Let your
women keep silence
in the
churches: for it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
A course by Amy Oden, «
Women Speak of God,» features a series of readings from important women in church his
Women Speak of God,» features a series of readings from important
women in church his
women in church history.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for
women to
speak in the
church.»
If Mr Obama
speaks favorably about the Lord, says he is a Christian (and he is a good man, married to one
woman, and his children behave = all the requirements
in the bible for a leader of the
church must have) and he declares or asks for Gods blessings over our country, do not judge him or prevent him.
Sister Ann Patrick, who coordinates a project called the Institute of
Women Today, undoubtedly
speaks for many
in the ministries of the several
churches.
The Ecumenical Decade is challenging the
church not to ignore this reality but to courageously
speak out and stand
in solidarity with
women.
Some of the
women wore head coverings and none of them
spoke in church.
In November 1983, approximately 1,400 women, most of them Roman Catholic, met in Chicago for a conference called «Woman Church Speaks.&raqu
In November 1983, approximately 1,400
women, most of them Roman Catholic, met
in Chicago for a conference called «Woman Church Speaks.&raqu
in Chicago for a conference called «
Woman Church Speaks.»
In the view of even the most faithful and sophisticated church members, including those who are close friends of the clergy, the theological seminary is a mysterious and awesome institution — familiar only to the privileged and spiritual elite, speaking an esoteric tongue, and turning out men and women in a highly specialized field — .
In the view of even the most faithful and sophisticated
church members, including those who are close friends of the clergy, the theological seminary is a mysterious and awesome institution — familiar only to the privileged and spiritual elite,
speaking an esoteric tongue, and turning out men and
women in a highly specialized field — .
in a highly specialized field — ...
You forgot the quote a page before concerning
women dressing decently when they prophesy
in church, there Paul assumed that
women would be
speaking, but why muddy the waters with reality when you can lift a quote to suit your purposes?
I have
spoken to several
women who had to leave the
church — and the ones who chose to stay — and it's a tragic thing to watch a body of believers strip one another of dignity and vocation and calling
in the name of God.
A friend who was a counselor before she retired and who knew from work one of the main problems
in that
church, sat me down one day and talked to me about what it had been like to work with that
woman and how everyone saw that
woman, and then my friend gave me this article to read that she had learned and used while she was still
in practice before she retired: https://glynissherwood.com/12-steps-to-breaking-free-from-being-the-family-scapegoat/ This article
speaks about family, but my friend told me it can be applied to any dysfunctional group of people.
I have taken guys aside and
spoken harsly to them about the way that have treated
women,
in one case the guy beating up on his wife who was a theology student and the son od a
church leader of all things.
They
speak of
church cultures that treated
women's bodies as inherently problematic and seductive, that assigned a
woman's worth to her sexual purity or procreative prowess, that questioned
women's ability to think rationally or make decisions without the leadership of men, that blamed victims of sexual abuse for inviting the abuse or tempting the abuser, that shamed
women who did not «joyfully submit» to their husband and find contentment
in their roles as helpers and homemakers, and that effectively silenced victims of abuse by telling
women and children that reporting the crime would reflect poorly on the
church and thus damage the reputation of Christ.
For example, the Council on
Women and the
Church of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has developed a packet of materials on family violence for local church use, «A Time to Speak,» and also a pamphlet and filmstrip on sexual harassment, Naming the Unnamed: Sexual Harassment in the C
Church of the Presbyterian
Church (U.S.A.) has developed a packet of materials on family violence for local church use, «A Time to Speak,» and also a pamphlet and filmstrip on sexual harassment, Naming the Unnamed: Sexual Harassment in the C
Church (U.S.A.) has developed a packet of materials on family violence for local
church use, «A Time to Speak,» and also a pamphlet and filmstrip on sexual harassment, Naming the Unnamed: Sexual Harassment in the C
church use, «A Time to
Speak,» and also a pamphlet and filmstrip on sexual harassment, Naming the Unnamed: Sexual Harassment
in the
ChurchChurch.
Heads up she is
speaking about laws
in the Old Testament that do not apply to the Christian
church when she writes about
woman having to marry rapist, daughters to be sold etc..
For example... Jesus declared men and
women equal, however Paul declared that it is shameful for a
woman to even
speak in church and that this practice was to be upheld
in «all the
churches».
The one I often heard was:
women are too emotional to
speak in church.
Although there may be some variation on the specifics, broadly
speaking, complementarians believe that
women are biblically - bound to submit to male leadership
in the home and
in church life, which means that husbands are ultimately responsible for decision - making on behalf of their families and that
women should refrain from assuming leadership positions over men
in a
church setting.
Regarding
women in the
church, Hannah said she feels strongly that based on 1 Corinthians 11, they should not
speak or have authority over men.
Why is that complementarian
women are forbidden from assuming leadership
in churches, and yet permitted to
speak?
I've spent far more time than I care to admit combing through complementarian literature, reading debates about whether
women can read Scripture aloud
in church, whether female missionaries should be permitted to give presentations on Sunday evenings, what age groups
women should be allowed to teach
in Sunday school, whether
women can
speak in small group Bible studies, what titles to bestow upon worship leaders and children's ministry coordinators so that they don't appear too authoritative, and on and on and on.
At the last house
church I was at, only one
woman spoke in tongues, and she had prophetic insight.
(I Timothy 2:11 - 14) «Let your
women keep silence
in the
churches: for it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
So Paul said that ONLY
in cultures where
women DOMINATED men, should they not be allowed to
speak in church and have to ask their husbands.
Can a
woman minister
speak Out on sensitive issues
in her
church and be accepted?
1 Corinthians 14:34 - 36 Let your
women keep silence
in the
churches: for it is not permitted unto them to
speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
Problem definition is time - consuming, a deep journey into our own prejudices and hopes for a Christian faith that actually makes a difference, a horrible awakening that giants of the faith may have little faith
in God and more
in courts and money, that fame - seekers exist within the
church system and garner friends as shields, that a man that marries a second wife may wish to destroy the first wife at any cost, and that authors can indeed write good books but run away from
women speaking of their own abuse, and that prior friendships dictate the limits of Christianity....
Speaking in response to the Scottish Episcopal
Church's decision to allow gay marriages, a spokesman for the Presbyterian
Church in Ireland told the Belfast Telegraph: «Many people
in the Presbyterian
Church in Ireland will be deeply saddened at this week's developments
in Scotland, which seems so obviously at variance with the traditional biblical understanding of marriage as being between one man and one
woman.
Sally, can you now explain why it is that you ignore the part of the bible that says you are not allowed to
speak in Church, and why you do not ignore the part that says marriage is between a man and a
woman?
The bible is clear that
women are not to
speak in church.
Let your
women keep silent
in the
churches, for they are not permitted to
speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says.